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Post by CocaNola on Jun 25, 2021 19:04:52 GMT -5
WUSYANAME is #1 on AM.
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Post by atg on Jun 25, 2021 19:09:40 GMT -5
I expect You Right and maybe Need to Know to stick around. If her label plays the cards right then Kiss Me More will hit #1 followed by You Right after.
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Post by iHype. on Jun 25, 2021 20:10:02 GMT -5
Ed hasn’t even reached #1 on Apple Music UK, and Friday is already over in UK. Divide was even bigger than 25 in UK (12x Platinum album). That’s like Drake not being able to reach #1 on Apple Music US.
It’s behind Good 4 U, which is like 7 weeks old at that. This is easily a big underperformance first day.
I doubt this is going to be pulling truly big Spotify numbers when it’s not even lighting up Apple Music in the slightest.
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Post by iHype. on Jun 25, 2021 20:43:58 GMT -5
I think we can go ahead and already rule out a #1 debut for Ed if he is gonna take well over half a day just to make top 100 on Apple Music. too early to rule him out. if the Spotify numbers are mediocre then radio won't be enough to save him, but if his YouTube + Spotify numbers are healthy he could very well do it. being slow on Apple Music hasn't stopped pop songs from debuting at #1 before. First day Apple Music US: Shape of You - #2 (behind Hot 100 #1 “Bad & Boujee”) I Don’t Care - #2 (behind Hot 100 #1 “Old Town Road”) Bad Habits - #83 (behind Hot 100 #73 “Enough for You”) It’s not even outdoing six week old album tracks. |
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Post by kimberly on Jun 25, 2021 21:43:53 GMT -5
too early to rule him out. if the Spotify numbers are mediocre then radio won't be enough to save him, but if his YouTube + Spotify numbers are healthy he could very well do it. being slow on Apple Music hasn't stopped pop songs from debuting at #1 before. First day Apple Music US: Shape of You - #2 (behind Hot 100 #1 “Bad & Boujee”) I Don’t Care - #2 (behind Hot 100 #1 “Old Town Road”) Bad Habits - #83 (behind Hot 100 #73 “Enough for You”) the day isn't over yet and it's up to #56. it's a pop song stuck behind 2 highly anticipated hip hop albums that dropped today. without Doja and Tyler tracks, it would have been #27. it's not doing as bad as you want to paint it out to be. let's see Spotify numbers tomorrow and then decide. (though I do think "Kiss Me More" has a great shot at outperforming "Bad Habits" this week.) neither is the current #1 single on the Hot 100... |
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Post by iHype. on Jun 25, 2021 21:50:38 GMT -5
First day Apple Music US: Shape of You - #2 (behind Hot 100 #1 “Bad & Boujee”) I Don’t Care - #2 (behind Hot 100 #1 “Old Town Road”) Bad Habits - #83 (behind Hot 100 #73 “Enough for You”) It’s not even outdoing six week old album tracks. the day isn't over yet and it's up to #56. it's a pop song stuck behind 2 highly anticipated hip hop albums that dropped today. without Doja and Tyler tracks, it would have been #27. it's not doing as bad as you want to paint it out to be. let's see Spotify numbers tomorrow and then decide. (though I do think "Kiss Me More" has a great shot at outperforming "Bad Habits" this week.) Being #27 even with not counting any other debuts is literally bad if the general consensus was expecting an aim at a #1 debut… What songs post-bundling were able to debut #1 while doing that bad on Apple Music? Pretty sure only BTS & he does not have a similar sales-driven manipulative fan base to pull 200k+ sales or 200 million+ global YouTube views in favor of weak audio streaming. |
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Post by kimberly on Jun 25, 2021 21:57:37 GMT -5
the day isn't over yet and it's up to #56. it's a pop song stuck behind 2 highly anticipated hip hop albums that dropped today. without Doja and Tyler tracks, it would have been #27. it's not doing as bad as you want to paint it out to be. let's see Spotify numbers tomorrow and then decide. (though I do think "Kiss Me More" has a great shot at outperforming "Bad Habits" this week.) Being #27 is literally bad if the general consensus was expecting an aim at a #1 debut… What songs post-bundling were able to debut #1 while doing that bad on Apple Music? Pretty sure only BTS & he does not have a similar sales-driven manipulative fan base. my point was that since your post, it already climbed that many ranks... "Bad Habits" is a pop song (a generic, faceless one at that) by one of the most well-known musicians of today. pop songs take time to grow on Apple Music, especially when they are by artists without huge standoms. it's still too early to rule him out, when he's getting massive airplay & still rising on Apple Music & we haven't even seen the Spotify numbers. that's all. trust me, I'm not rooting for him to debut at #1. but I'm being cautious about dismissing its chances this early on. |
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Post by s9983 on Jun 25, 2021 22:01:22 GMT -5
Being #27 is literally bad if the general consensus was expecting an aim at a #1 debut… What songs post-bundling were able to debut #1 while doing that bad on Apple Music? Pretty sure only BTS & he does not have a similar sales-driven manipulative fan base. my point was that since your post, it already climbed that many ranks... "Bad Habits" is a pop song (a generic, faceless one at that) by one of the most well-known musicians of today. pop songs take time to grow on Apple Music, especially when they are by artists without huge standoms. it's still too early to rule him out, when he's getting massive airplay & still rising on Apple Music & we haven't even seen the Spotify numbers. that's all. trust me, I'm not rooting for him to debut at #1. but I'm being cautious about dismissing its chances this early on. Youtube will do nothing for it or hardly much. he'd need at least triple the spotify streams to make up for the lack of AM streams and that's definitely not gonna happen. It's fairly easy to rule him out unless the single grows massively in streams, which i doubt is happening. All radio will do is give him an exta 20ish points. Probably top 10, but even top 5 is debatable. |
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Post by iHype. on Jun 25, 2021 22:09:23 GMT -5
Being #27 is literally bad if the general consensus was expecting an aim at a #1 debut… What songs post-bundling were able to debut #1 while doing that bad on Apple Music? Pretty sure only BTS & he does not have a similar sales-driven manipulative fan base. my point was that since your post, it already climbed that many ranks... "Bad Habits" is a pop song (a generic, faceless one at that) by one of the most well-known musicians of today. pop songs take time to grow on Apple Music, especially when they are by artists without huge standoms. it's still too early to rule him out, when he's getting massive airplay & still rising on Apple Music & we haven't even seen the Spotify numbers. that's all. trust me, I'm not rooting for him to debut at #1. but I'm being cautious about dismissing its chances this early on. Literally already posted: Shape of You - #2 first day on Apple Music I Don’t Care - #2 first day on Apple Music This is doing bad even for his first day standards?… Was he not a Pop artist in 2017 & 2019? Yeah I do think it can grow and hell.. maybe even go #1 in later weeks (Leave the Door Open type run) if it sticks. But as far as a #1 debut goes these numbers don’t look surefire. And when we have a stan base currently purchasing 24 copies each transaction and watching chart predictor pages obsessively anytime they have a decent chance at remaining #1… it’s gonna need a big lead and very huge performance right out the gate to immediately shut down any race. #56 on Apple Music isn’t a very huge performance right out the gate on any circumstance. |
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Post by kimberly on Jun 25, 2021 22:10:44 GMT -5
my point was that since your post, it already climbed that many ranks... "Bad Habits" is a pop song (a generic, faceless one at that) by one of the most well-known musicians of today. pop songs take time to grow on Apple Music, especially when they are by artists without huge standoms. it's still too early to rule him out, when he's getting massive airplay & still rising on Apple Music & we haven't even seen the Spotify numbers. that's all. trust me, I'm not rooting for him to debut at #1. but I'm being cautious about dismissing its chances this early on. Youtube will do nothing for it or hardly much. he'd need at least triple the spotify streams to make up for the lack of AM streams and that's definitely not gonna happen. It's fairly easy to rule him out unless the single grows massively in streams, which i doubt is happening. All radio will do is give him an exta 20ish points. Probably top 10, but even top 5 is debatable. literally the first day of the tracking week isn't even over... he should be worried if he stalls in the 50's on Apple Music but as long as he keeps climbing his way up, I don't see why he should be ruled out this quickly. |
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Post by kimberly on Jun 25, 2021 22:27:26 GMT -5
my point was that since your post, it already climbed that many ranks... "Bad Habits" is a pop song (a generic, faceless one at that) by one of the most well-known musicians of today. pop songs take time to grow on Apple Music, especially when they are by artists without huge standoms. it's still too early to rule him out, when he's getting massive airplay & still rising on Apple Music & we haven't even seen the Spotify numbers. that's all. trust me, I'm not rooting for him to debut at #1. but I'm being cautious about dismissing its chances this early on. Literally already posted: Shape of You - #2 first day on Apple Music I Don’t Care - #2 first day on Apple Music This is doing bad even for his first day standards?… Was he not a Pop artist in 2017 & 2019? Yeah I do think it can grow and hell.. maybe even go #1 in later weeks (Leave the Door Open type run) if it sticks. But as far as a #1 debut goes these numbers don’t look surefire. And when we have a stan base currently purchasing 24 copies each transaction and watching chart predictor pages obsessively anytime they have a decent chance at remaining #1… it’s gonna need a big lead and very huge performance right out the gate to immediately shut down any race. #56 on Apple Music isn’t a very huge performance right out the gate on any circumstance. "Shape of You" was the #1 song of the year on Apple and Spotify & "I Don't Care" was a huge collaboration that also broke Spotify's one-day streaming record at the time... your bar is set very high. did either of those have 2 (more anticipated) full-length projects to compete with for attention? I would like to remind that I'm not saying he will debut at #1. I'm just saying it's too early to rule him out. That's it. We don't even have a full day of data. |
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Post by iHype. on Jun 25, 2021 22:41:32 GMT -5
Literally already posted: Shape of You - #2 first day on Apple Music I Don’t Care - #2 first day on Apple Music This is doing bad even for his first day standards?… Was he not a Pop artist in 2017 & 2019? Yeah I do think it can grow and hell.. maybe even go #1 in later weeks (Leave the Door Open type run) if it sticks. But as far as a #1 debut goes these numbers don’t look surefire. And when we have a stan base currently purchasing 24 copies each transaction and watching chart predictor pages obsessively anytime they have a decent chance at remaining #1… it’s gonna need a big lead and very huge performance right out the gate to immediately shut down any race. #56 on Apple Music isn’t a very huge performance right out the gate on any circumstance. "Shape of You" was the #1 song of the year on Apple and Spotify & "I Don't Care" was a huge collaboration that also broke Spotify's one-day streaming record at the time... your bar is set very high. did either of those have 2 (more anticipated) full-length projects to compete with for attention? I would like to remind that I'm not saying he will debut at #1. I'm just saying it's too early to rule him out. That's it. We don't even have a full day of data. This isn’t even #1 in UK Apple Music… his home country. Where he is 5x bigger. Bigger than Adele. This song’s first day is not good by any means. If it can’t even smash out the gate in UK I think it shows how it will fare in US. |
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Post by mgkjn11 on Jun 25, 2021 23:26:15 GMT -5
You Right is horrible. Horrible song horrible lyrics and horrible message. Bad habits a banger. Ed Sheehan to number one
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Post by 85la on Jun 26, 2021 0:52:13 GMT -5
One to watch is this new country song "Fancy Like" by Walker Hayes, which is literally just becoming huge on TikTok, shooting up the country charts and was just #1 briefly (now pushed down to #2 because of Bad Habits) on iTunes. Not picking up any airplay yet, understandably because it's brand new, but also lacking in streaming, so hard to say where this one will go.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 26, 2021 2:52:23 GMT -5
(28 hours since release): Top 30 of US Apple Music currently.  Tyler, the Creator has 13/16 songs in the top 30 with the lowest-charting song off his album at #38. Doja Cat has 6/14 songs in the top 30 with the lowest-charting song off her album at #69. |
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Jun 26, 2021 3:16:08 GMT -5
Intrigued to see “Ain’t Shit” at #6. The hype for it beforehand must have helped.
I knew Tyler’s album would outperform Doja, but I expected her to do at least a little better than she’s actually doing. Maybe she’ll do better on Spotify? It’s a more pop-oriented platform than AM anyways.
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Post by kimberly on Jun 26, 2021 3:16:23 GMT -5
Ed Sheeran's song went down two spots on Apple Music, not a good sign. It's now at #58.
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Post by shayonce on Jun 26, 2021 3:37:57 GMT -5
Apple Music Top 100 USA 6-25 Friday
1. Tyler, The Creator - WUSYANAME
2. Tyler, The Creator - SIR BAUDELAIRE
3. Tyler, The Creator - LEMONHEAD
4. Tyler, The Creator - CORSO
5. Tyler, The Creator - HOT WIND BLOWS
6. Doja Cat - Ain't s**t
7. Drake - Wants and Needs (feat. Lil Baby)
8. Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u
9. Tyler, The Creator - LUMBERJACK
10. Tyler, The Creator - JUGGERNAUT
11. Tyler, The Creator - MASSA
12. Doja Cat - Kiss Me More (feat. SZA)
13. Tyler, The Creator - RUNITUP
14. Tyler, The Creator - SWEET / I THOUGHT YOU WANTED TO DANCE
15. Doja Cat & The Weeknd - You Right
16. Polo G - RAPSTAR
17. Megan Thee Stallion - Thot s**t
18. Tyler, The Creator - MANIFESTO
19. Lil Baby, Lil Durk & Travis Scott - Hats Off
20. Moneybagg Yo - Wockesha
36. Nio García, J Balvin & Bad Bunny - AM Remix
57. Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits
73. DaBaby - Red Light Green Light
100. H.E.R. - Come Through (feat. Chris Brown)
Doja Cat
21. Doja Cat - Need To Know
22. Doja Cat - I Don't Do Drugs (feat. Ariana Grande)
28. Doja Cat - Woman
39. Doja Cat - Naked
40. Doja Cat - Payday (feat. Young Thug)
42. Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh)
46. Doja Cat - Love To Dream
47. Doja Cat - Been Like This
52. Doja Cat - Options (feat. JID)
54. Doja Cat - Imagine
66. Doja Cat - Alone
Tyler, The Creator
23. Tyler, The Creator - WILSHIRE
24. Tyler, The Creator - RISE!
31. Tyler, The Creator - MOMMA TALK
33. Tyler, The Creator - BLESSED
37. Tyler, The Creator - SAFARI
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 26, 2021 6:17:05 GMT -5
A 14-track album debuting with less than 13M streams on US Spotify is... low, no?
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Jun 26, 2021 6:17:20 GMT -5
almost 1,3M for Bad Habits in the US. This is really bad, I expected at least 2,5M.
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Post by kalmanta on Jun 26, 2021 6:19:03 GMT -5
Ed at #16 with 1,259M streams in the US, #7 worldwide with 4,720M
Pretty weak debut!
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 26, 2021 6:21:29 GMT -5
almost 1,3M for Bad Habits in the US. This is really bad, I expected at least 2,5M. Low debut considering the hype he had built up but the song could always grow. If it doesn't remain stable or gain streams over the weekend then... yeah. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 26, 2021 6:26:14 GMT -5
Yeah, Tyler, the Creator's album is debuting at #1. Stronger start on both Apple Music and Spotify. I really thought Doja would have a better debut on Spotify. Oh, well.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 26, 2021 6:28:52 GMT -5
Afterglow could've been excused as a one-off, tons of artists before have had one-offs that didn't take off (Rihanna and Kanye have a bunch of these). But Bad Habits being an actively promoted single, marketed as his big comeback, and with a ton of money being used to advertise it, yeah not good.
Even looking at the Spotify charts in the UK, good 4 u is beating it by 157,789
And unlike Billie, Ed doesn't have the critical acclaim do rest behind.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 26, 2021 6:31:55 GMT -5
Afterglow could've been excused as a one-off, tons of artists before have had one-offs that didn't take off (Rihanna and Kanye have a bunch of these). But Bad Habits being an actively promoted single, marketed as his big comeback, and with a ton of money being used to advertise it, yeah not good. Even looking at the Spotify charts in the UK, good 4 u is beating it by 157,789 Knowing how chart/success-obsessed Ed is, this can't be sitting right with him. |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Jun 26, 2021 6:32:15 GMT -5
almost 1,3M for Bad Habits in the US. This is really bad, I expected at least 2,5M. Low debut considering the hype he had built up but the song could always grow. If it doesn't remain stable or gain streams over the weekend then... yeah. I mean, the song is #1 on TTH and he's the most followed artist on Spotify. I guess his huge hits are either ballads or polarizing songs. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 26, 2021 6:33:29 GMT -5
Afterglow could've been excused as a one-off, tons of artists before have had one-offs that didn't take off (Rihanna and Kanye have a bunch of these). But Bad Habits being an actively promoted single, marketed as his big comeback, and with a ton of money being used to advertise it, yeah not good. Even looking at the Spotify charts in the UK, good 4 u is beating it by 157,789 Knowing how chart/success-obsessed Ed is, this can't be sitting right with him. I guess people were finally sick of the mediocre pop he was making. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 26, 2021 6:41:52 GMT -5
Low debut considering the hype he had built up but the song could always grow. If it doesn't remain stable or gain streams over the weekend then... yeah. I mean, the song is #1 on TTH and he's the most followed artist on Spotify. I guess his huge hits are either ballads or polarizing songs. I have no doubt the song will eventually stabilize and will peak higher on both US/global Spotify but it likely won't be one-quarter the hit Shape of You was (which is still great because Shape of You was a monster smash hit) but just knowing how obsessed Ed is with charts and being successful, he'll take this pretty hard. Oh well. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 26, 2021 6:42:59 GMT -5
Knowing how chart/success-obsessed Ed is, this can't be sitting right with him. I guess people were finally sick of the mediocre pop he was making. I hope we're finally at that point. His best songs have always been ballads anyways and I very much enjoy those so I'm good with this song not smashing because I think it sucks. |
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 26, 2021 6:45:52 GMT -5
Yes he even disregarded Afterglow altogether after it missed #1 in the UK on his own IG, saying that Bad Habits is his first solo song in 4 years. That's how obsessed he is with being #1.
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