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Post by nickd on Jun 26, 2021 9:35:01 GMT -5
BTS and their fans won't stop until they secure the Song of the Summer Billboard 2021 title. So expect the mass and panic buying until September If they manage to secure SotS will SotY be within reach? |
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 26, 2021 9:45:48 GMT -5
If this song had any more astroturf it would be a stadium. The issue is more one of longevity, but assuming they get plenty of dark money and manage to avoid a Rico investigation, it could hit top ten.
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Post by fridayteenage on Jun 26, 2021 9:47:53 GMT -5
this year's female US spotify peaks, at least 1.9 mil
drivers license 6.15 mil
good 4 u 4.97 mil
(love story TV 2.98 mil)
brutal 2.85 mil
deja vu 2.79 mil
traitor 2.71 mil
enough for you 2.37 mil
1 step forward 2.30 mil
happier 2.28 mil
(your power 2.09 mil)
jealousy jealousy 1.99 mil
I thought kmm might have a bigger boost.
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Post by rimetm on Jun 26, 2021 9:48:36 GMT -5
If they manage Song of the Summer, that would mean theyβd be at about 510,000 chart points at the end of the season with 9 chart weeks left in the year. Levitating will have added about 290,000 chart points by that point to its 600,000+ total currently, so barring a collapse for it, it should fend off Butter for that spot.
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Post by iHype. on Jun 26, 2021 10:27:49 GMT -5
The better Bad Habits came out recently too.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 26, 2021 10:30:19 GMT -5
Why would anyone think he would debut at #1 on Hot 100 is beyond me. He is never that big in US, plus this isn't the type of music that would smash there. I expected better results in UK but it is what it is, let's hope it'll have longevity at least. As for this week's Hot 100, i'm rooting for KMM or Butter this week. what Yeah. No one ever debuts at number one without a massive backing of prior success. |
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Post by Choco on Jun 26, 2021 10:46:15 GMT -5
Why would anyone think he would debut at #1 on Hot 100 is beyond me. He is never that big in US, plus this isn't the type of music that would smash there. is this gaslighting or what |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 10:46:21 GMT -5
Why would anyone think he would debut at #1 on Hot 100 is beyond me. He is never that big in US, plus this isn't the type of music that would smash there. I expected better results in UK but it is what it is, let's hope it'll have longevity at least. As for this week's Hot 100, i'm rooting for KMM or Butter this week. what Yeah. No one ever debuts at number one without a massive backing of prior success. omg Max please go to settings and clear out your 'default BBCode' box, this what is driving me crazy lmao |
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Jun 26, 2021 10:54:01 GMT -5
Ed Sheeran is not big in the US? He was literally the 6th biggest artist of the 2010s, "Divide" was the 3rd biggest album, with "x" at #8. He has 12 top 20 songs, 3 of those are monster hits.
Ed isn't on Drake's, Taylor's or Ariana's level, and it's definitely one of his least successful countries, but he's still really big.
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Post by atg on Jun 26, 2021 10:55:30 GMT -5
The better Bad Habits came out recently too. I think youβre forgetting about the even better Bad Habitsβ¦ |
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Post by spiritboy on Jun 26, 2021 10:56:32 GMT -5
Ed Sheeran is not big in the US? He was literally the 6th biggest artist of the 2010s, "Divide" was the 3rd biggest album, with "x" at #8. He has 12 top 20 songs, 3 of those are monster hits. Ed isn't on Drake's, Taylor's or Ariana's level, and it's definitely one of his least successful countries, but he's still really big. That's what i was talking about. He is big but not "debuting at #1 big" in my opinion. |
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 26, 2021 11:00:14 GMT -5
With D2C sales, everyone with 100k fans can debut at #1 (if BTS are not in the race). Some artists use that opportunity, others don't.
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Post by iHype. on Jun 26, 2021 11:08:01 GMT -5
Ed Sheeran is not big in the US? He was literally the 6th biggest artist of the 2010s, "Divide" was the 3rd biggest album, with "x" at #8. He has 12 top 20 songs, 3 of those are monster hits. Ed isn't on Drake's, Taylor's or Ariana's level, and it's definitely one of his least successful countries, but he's still really big. That's what i was talking about. He is big but not "debuting at #1 big" in my opinion. He has already debuted at #1.... so how is he not "debuting at #1 big"?? |
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Post by Choco on Jun 26, 2021 11:10:54 GMT -5
Ed Sheeran is not big in the US? He was literally the 6th biggest artist of the 2010s, "Divide" was the 3rd biggest album, with "x" at #8. He has 12 top 20 songs, 3 of those are monster hits. Ed isn't on Drake's, Taylor's or Ariana's level, and it's definitely one of his least successful countries, but he's still really big. That's what i was talking about. He is big but not "debuting at #1 big" in my opinion. He has literally debuted at #1 before sis, and his last lead single only missed the mark because it was up against "Old Town Road". Added bonus: #1 debuts have only gotten easier since. |
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Post by wavey. on Jun 26, 2021 11:18:30 GMT -5
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Post by fridayteenage on Jun 26, 2021 11:22:57 GMT -5
With D2C sales, everyone with 100k fans can debut at #1 (if BTS are not in the race). Some artists use that opportunity, others don't. or 1k diehard fans still willing to spend money and bulk buy for, say, 18 weeks. |
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Post by Choco on Jun 26, 2021 11:27:51 GMT -5
With D2C sales, everyone with 100k fans can debut at #1 (if BTS are not in the race). Some artists use that opportunity, others don't. or 1k diehard fans still willing to spend money and bulk buy for, say, 18 weeks. ok rude, it's not 1k fans, it's like 7.5k buying 4 copies of each version ok they're really really popular ok. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 26, 2021 11:29:45 GMT -5
That's what i was talking about. He is big but not "debuting at #1 big" in my opinion. He has already debuted at #1.... so how is he not "debuting at #1 big"?? He actually debuted at #1 AND #6 with 2 singles in the same week lol. The first artist to debut 2 songs in the top 10 in the same week if I'm not mistaken. Edit: YUP. |
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Post by Groovy on Jun 26, 2021 11:34:33 GMT -5
He has already debuted at #1.... so how is he not "debuting at #1 big"?? He actually debuted at #1 AND #6 with 2 singles in the same week lol. The first artist to debut 2 songs in the top 10 in the same week if I'm not mistaken. Edit: YUP. I remember those days when that never happened and then by 2018 it was a regular thing by an established star. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 26, 2021 11:43:54 GMT -5
I love how yesterday there was a discussion on whether or not Billie Eilish is an A-lister despite her image is one of the most recognizable right now and the fact her world tour sold out in hours and now we're having a discussion if Ed Sheeran is even that popular despite the fact Divide was one of the biggest albums of last decade and Shape of You is one of the biggest songs of all time
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 26, 2021 11:45:18 GMT -5
I love how yesterday there was a discussion on whether or not Billie Eilish is an A-lister despite her image is one of the most recognizable right now and the fact her world tour sold out in hours and now we're having a discussion if Ed Sheeran is even that popular despite the fact Divide was one of the biggest albums of last decade and Shape of You is one of the biggest songs of all time Can't wait for when Drake's next single fails to debut in the top 10 and we have a debate on whether he's ever been a popular musician ^__^ |
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Post by andrebra on Jun 26, 2021 11:58:48 GMT -5
I think Dojaβs numbers are solid. I mean, Iβm not quite sure why some of yβall were expecting her to put up insane numbers when itβs only her second album and she was competing with another huge rap album. Meganβs album opened with the best performing track at around only 685,000 streams (not trying to compare the two, just adding some perspective since it seems like they are both lumped together based off how they got big at the same time). I think 5 songs above a million streams is enough for her to be content. I do, however, think she may have sabotaged herself out of a #1 on the Hot 100 by putting Kiss Me More as the last track on the album.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jun 26, 2021 12:00:03 GMT -5
With D2C sales, everyone with 100k fans can debut at #1 (if BTS are not in the race). Some artists use that opportunity, others don't. Travis Scott proved that it was possible to debut at #1 even with BTS in the race. I still can't believe Franchise stole a week at #1 away from Dynamite. Oddly enough, that puts Travis is good position to tie or even break Janet & Abel's record. With HITR hitting #1 in 2019, Travis could release a 3rd single to debut at #1 in the fall, and then release the album post-Christmas for a 4th year with a #1 in 2022. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 26, 2021 12:09:29 GMT -5
I think Dojaβs numbers are solid. I mean, Iβm not quite sure why some of yβall were expecting her to put up insane numbers when itβs only her second album and she was competing with another huge rap album. Meganβs album opened with the best performing track at around only 685,000 streams (not trying to compare the two, just adding some perspective since it seems like they are both lumped together based off how they got big at the same time). I think 5 songs above a million streams is enough for her to be content. I do, however, think she may have sabotaged herself out of a #1 on the Hot 100 by putting Kiss Me More as the last track on the album. This is actually Doja Cat's third album. |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jun 26, 2021 12:24:56 GMT -5
I know DAMN WELL y'all ain't talking about Ed "two of the biggest songs in Spotify history" Sheeran isn't "debut at 1" big???
Are we so quickly forgetting that he was the OG when it came to debuting multiple songs in the top 10 oooooor.... And he also debuted at 2 behind OTR, so he would've done it again if OTR wasn't one of the biggest songs of all time and this was only two years ago.
He's obviously bigger in the UK but if anything there's few artists stateside that are on his level lol.
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Post by andrebra on Jun 26, 2021 12:29:06 GMT -5
I think Dojaβs numbers are solid. I mean, Iβm not quite sure why some of yβall were expecting her to put up insane numbers when itβs only her second album and she was competing with another huge rap album. Meganβs album opened with the best performing track at around only 685,000 streams (not trying to compare the two, just adding some perspective since it seems like they are both lumped together based off how they got big at the same time). I think 5 songs above a million streams is enough for her to be content. I do, however, think she may have sabotaged herself out of a #1 on the Hot 100 by putting Kiss Me More as the last track on the album. This is actually Doja Cat's third album. Shoot, I always forget Amala was full-length haha, my point still stands though that she didnβt really break out til her second album, so these numbers are not in the least bit bad. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2021 13:17:16 GMT -5
Even if Ed wasn't "debuting at #1 big" (lol) he was definitely "debuting in the top 3 big" so the fact that he's tracking to not only miss top 5, but barely eke into the top 10 if he doesn't come up significantly from TOTC's 200 points estimate is a notable underwhelmer no matter which way you try to cut it.
A top 10 debut is still fine and holds room for later growth if the song is likable enough, but you have to hear it in the first place to decide whether or not you like it. That's why a lower debut day for an A-lister like Ed is a big deal/indicative of a budding problem for him right now. It means that not as many people are moving to check him out right away; apathy, not hate, is what usually forebodes a top act's eventual decline.
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 26, 2021 13:19:33 GMT -5
Wusyaname is the obvious highlight on Tyler's album. Hope it debuts in top ten instead of Bad Habits
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Post by dovahduck on Jun 26, 2021 13:22:55 GMT -5
^Is this situation similar to Akon's decline in popularity? Assuming that Ed Sheeran's don't recover ofc.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 26, 2021 13:40:47 GMT -5
I love how yesterday there was a discussion on whether or not Billie Eilish is an A-lister despite her image is one of the most recognizable right now and the fact her world tour sold out in hours and now we're having a discussion if Ed Sheeran is even that popular despite the fact Divide was one of the biggest albums of last decade and Shape of You is one of the biggest songs of all time Can't wait for when Drake's next single fails to debut in the top 10 and we have a debate on whether he's ever been a popular musician ^__^ what Spiritboy: whoβs drake? |
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