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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 10, 2021 12:04:29 GMT -5
Mans better get used to losing then.
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Post by jenglisbe on Aug 10, 2021 12:08:11 GMT -5
Yeah I thought so, too, which is why I said "one of the only ones." Off the top of my head I couldn't remember many songs with Post as a feature, but I also am not an expert on him.
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 10, 2021 14:27:30 GMT -5
Let's give some praise to Mood, which hit one year on the chart and will be departing after an excellent run.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 10, 2021 15:09:01 GMT -5
One thing I noticed is Wants and Needs dropping out of the Hot 100 this week in spite of being #21 in Streaming Songs. I would guess this is one of the higher positions in Streaming Songs for a Hot 100 dropout.
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 10, 2021 15:12:15 GMT -5
I would think so. I'm guessing it fell to just outside the top 50. Given that Volvi, for example, was in the top 20 in both sales and streaming but barely made the top 40 on the Hot 100 suggests that radio is particularly important at present.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Aug 10, 2021 15:17:48 GMT -5
One thing I noticed is Wants and Needs dropping out of the Hot 100 this week in spite of being #21 in Streaming Songs. I would guess this is one of the higher positions in Streaming Songs for a Hot 100 dropout. Sunflower was #20 on streaming songs the week it went recurrent. Whatβs even more impressive is that the song actually moved up to #15 the following 2 weeks, and that was heading towards the Christmas season!
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 10, 2021 15:35:01 GMT -5
Let's remember too that Sunflower had to stay within the top 25, which is a higher standard than just having to avoid regular recurrency.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Aug 10, 2021 15:40:51 GMT -5
Let's give some praise to Mood, which hit one year on the chart and will be departing after an excellent run. Iβm not going to praise Mood. It backed its way to the milestone, and should have been gone weeks earlier. Instead, I will be shaming artists like Lil Durk/Lil Baby, Polo G, Migos, Pop Smoke, and many others for all those poor quality album during these past 10+ weeks.
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 10, 2021 15:43:23 GMT -5
It managed to be one of the top 50 songs during all of those weeks. I think any song that manages to sustain popularity with fans who are willing to stream, buy, or listen to their songs on the radio for an extended period deserves praise. All lengthy chart runs depend to some extent on the strength of competition, of course.
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Post by samoπ¦ on Aug 10, 2021 15:44:04 GMT -5
Let's give some praise to Mood, which hit one year on the chart and will be departing after an excellent run. Iβm not going to praise Mood. It backed its way to the milestone, and should have been gone weeks earlier. Instead, I will be shaming artists like Lil Durk/Lil Baby, Polo G, Migos, Pop Smoke, and many others for all those poor quality album during these past 10+ weeks.
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Post by lurker2 on Aug 10, 2021 15:44:04 GMT -5
Let's give some praise to Mood, which hit one year on the chart and will be departing after an excellent run. Iβm not going to praise Mood. It backed its way to the milestone, and should have been gone weeks earlier. Instead, I will be shaming artists like Lil Durk/Lil Baby, Polo G, Migos, Pop Smoke, and many others for all those poor quality album during these past 10+ weeks. Idk about that one, my man
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Post by Mayman on Aug 10, 2021 15:48:48 GMT -5
Let's give some praise to Mood, which hit one year on the chart and will be departing after an excellent run. Iβm not going to praise Mood. It backed its way to the milestone, and should have been gone weeks earlier. Instead, I will be shaming artists like Lil Durk/Lil Baby, Polo G, Migos, Pop Smoke, and many others for all those poor quality album during these past 10+ weeks. Are you really 33 years old?
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 10, 2021 15:51:52 GMT -5
It would admittedly be hard to have an album bomb that would suit the man's purposes--have a lot of songs between 20-50 that would knock out songs in recurrency while leaving Blinding Lights' chart run unhindered.
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Post by Gary on Aug 10, 2021 15:56:38 GMT -5
Let's give some praise to Mood, which hit one year on the chart and will be departing after an excellent run. Iβm not going to praise Mood. It backed its way to the milestone, and should have been gone weeks earlier. Instead, I will be shaming artists like Lil Durk/Lil Baby, Polo G, Migos, Pop Smoke, and many others for all those poor quality album during these past 10+ weeks. Let's be real every song that hangs on backs into a milestone. You can even say the same thing about Blinding Lights - long ago not the biggest hit out there - but it lingers on
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Aug 10, 2021 15:58:28 GMT -5
Iβm not going to praise Mood. It backed its way to the milestone, and should have been gone weeks earlier. Instead, I will be shaming artists like Lil Durk/Lil Baby, Polo G, Migos, Pop Smoke, and many others for all those poor quality album during these past 10+ weeks. Are you really 33 years old? Yes, but Iβm just pointing out how troubling it is too see so many albums flop like this. Iβm not asking for a masterpiece like J Cole or Olivia. Even average is okay, but these artists canβt even do that. 10 weeks of subpar album after subpar album is concerning.
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 10, 2021 16:00:36 GMT -5
I don't think that flopping and quality are necessarily the same thing. There are certainly good albums/songs that are released that do not catch on with the general public and some terrible music that is very popular. There are long stretches (admittedly usually not in summer) where few hyped albums are released--which is why we have the winter freeze every year of sorts .
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Post by Gary on Aug 10, 2021 16:11:16 GMT -5
Are you really 33 years old? Yes, but Iβm just pointing out how troubling it is too see so many albums flop like this. Iβm not asking for a masterpiece like J Cole or Olivia. Even average is okay, but these artists canβt even do that. 10 weeks of subpar album after subpar album is concerning. What is concerning? My advice for you - The Hot 100 - in general, based on a statistical formula is a summation of what OTHER PEOPLE find popular This may not always coincide with what you like. Take what you enjoy - even if it is not #1 on the charts - listen to it and relax
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Post by Groovy on Aug 10, 2021 18:41:40 GMT -5
Can we praise them even more by giving them another hit, itβs a shame that these two have not had a hit even a quarter as big as Mood.
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 10, 2021 20:44:42 GMT -5
Hopefully they've got some new projects they're working on.
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Post by Groovy on Aug 10, 2021 21:21:28 GMT -5
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Aug 10, 2021 23:23:36 GMT -5
Let's give some praise to Mood, which hit one year on the chart and will be departing after an excellent run. Iβm not going to praise Mood. It backed its way to the milestone, and should have been gone weeks earlier. Instead, I will be shaming artists like Lil Durk/Lil Baby, Polo G, Migos, Pop Smoke, and many others for all those poor quality album during these past 10+ weeks. Imagine shaming artists for not being commercially successful to get album bombs. Do you see how classist and greedy you sound, especially making fun of albums that still sold well?
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Post by andrebra on Aug 10, 2021 23:39:37 GMT -5
Let's give some praise to Mood, which hit one year on the chart and will be departing after an excellent run. Iβm not going to praise Mood. It backed its way to the milestone, and should have been gone weeks earlier. Instead, I will be shaming artists like Lil Durk/Lil Baby, Polo G, Migos, Pop Smoke, and many others for all those poor quality album during these past 10+ weeks. You care way too much about commercial success if you take pride in shaming artists for not performing to your standards. Do you even enjoy listening to music?
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 11, 2021 0:02:56 GMT -5
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Post by Normi on Aug 11, 2021 1:41:36 GMT -5
By the way, of course streaming is the most prominent metric for us and therefore appears the most important also because people watching charts (spare music boards like us) are mostly young people (see army), so it seems weird when songs are so high just because of radio, however the charts reflect consumption of an entire country ratger than a specific group
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Post by After Minutes on Aug 11, 2021 4:29:41 GMT -5
Can we praise them even more by giving them another hit, itβs a shame that these two have not had a hit even a quarter as big as Mood. Goldn would be a great artist for producers to feature. His voice is distinctive and it has personality, but it doesn't dominate a song. I could easily see someone like Kaytranada featuring him and that could blow up big time
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 11, 2021 6:23:49 GMT -5
By the way, of course streaming is the most prominent metric for us and therefore appears the most important also because people watching charts (spare music boards like us) are mostly young people (see army), so it seems weird when songs are so high just because of radio, however the charts reflect consumption of an entire country ratger than a specific group Itβs so weird how often people forget this, as if people who listen to music primarily through radio are subhuman or something and shouldnβt count.
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Post by algo on Aug 11, 2021 8:20:32 GMT -5
as much as i like it, "mood" really feels like a one-hit wonder type song and i've been saying that since it hit #1
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Post by ontopofthis on Aug 11, 2021 8:52:24 GMT -5
By the way, of course streaming is the most prominent metric for us and therefore appears the most important also because people watching charts (spare music boards like us) are mostly young people (see army), so it seems weird when songs are so high just because of radio, however the charts reflect consumption of an entire country ratger than a specific group Itβs so weird how often people forget this, as if people who listen to music primarily through radio are subhuman or something and shouldnβt count. The problem is that airplay as they use it is really faulty
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 11, 2021 9:44:05 GMT -5
Itβs so weird how often people forget this, as if people who listen to music primarily through radio are subhuman or something and shouldnβt count. The problem is that airplay as they use it is really faulty Audience impressions and such isnβt a great measure but itβs probably the best thatβs out there. I think not including it would be a disservice to what the chart should be measuring (presumably), which is song popularity or at least determining what the most consumed songs are week to week.
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 11, 2021 9:52:41 GMT -5
I agree, it's not perfect but it is a reasonable approximation of what people are listening to.
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