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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Aug 11, 2021 10:04:14 GMT -5
For me, it’s a mix. I use streaming (YouTube) to listen to my favorite oldies. My oldies station here sucks (a few weeks ago, they were playing Leave the Door Open, lol). [Remember where you were back in spring 2021 when that song was popular?]
That said, I still use radio in the car to listen to today’s hits.
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 11, 2021 10:12:08 GMT -5
It's nice to see Bruno Mars get some appreciation for his throwback efforts. I too listen to the radio while I'm in the car to listen to today's hits. I have a list of stations on my programmed stations that include pop, rock, alternative, Hot AC, and oldies.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Aug 11, 2021 11:35:30 GMT -5
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 11, 2021 11:38:03 GMT -5
People waxing nostalgic about Billboard, that's great.
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Post by bbdenney94 on Aug 11, 2021 13:32:22 GMT -5
as much as i like it, "mood" really feels like a one-hit wonder type song and i've been saying that since it hit #1 Care to elaborate? I'm always fascinated by one hit wonders (I maintain a database of songs to only hit the top 40 once). To me, "Mood" never sounded like that, as it's so perfectly within the realm of Juice WRLD-esque sad boy pop rap. 24kGoldn also had some surprise traction on Alt radio with "City of Angels", so IMO he seems like he's got some versatility with his songcraft.
Time will tell! :)
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 11, 2021 13:35:53 GMT -5
Yes, time will tell. It doesn't look like he's going to have a hit from his current project, but we will see what comes out next.
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Post by iHype. on Aug 11, 2021 14:07:32 GMT -5
That’s a blur but I miss when Paul Grein would reveal many of other Hot 100 positions the day of the top 10 reveal, note achievements that Billboard did not note, and even give sales numbers/totals not given by Billboard. Whoever decided to end his column at Yahoo! is probably apart of the reason why that site hasn’t been able to be relevant in general since the 2000s. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 11, 2021 14:11:42 GMT -5
I remember being fond of that column as well, but I think in general that those of us who are passionate about music charts would appreciate reading about that sort of thing. Billboard decided to chase clout from stans rather than to appeal to chart nerds . It is what it is.
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Post by lurker2 on Aug 11, 2021 14:46:59 GMT -5
as much as i like it, "mood" really feels like a one-hit wonder type song and i've been saying that since it hit #1 Care to elaborate? I'm always fascinated by one hit wonders (I maintain a database of songs to only hit the top 40 once). To me, "Mood" never sounded like that, as it's so perfectly within the realm of Juice WRLD-esque sad boy pop rap. 24kGoldn also had some surprise traction on Alt radio with "City of Angels", so IMO he seems like he's got some versatility with his songcraft.
Time will tell! :)
I feel like there are two main types of OHWs - those who are too outside the mainstream to get a second hit (Psy or Gotye), and those who got lucky ridijg off of trends despite not being necessarily special (Desiigner or Lil Tecca). Plus there's novelty songs and dance tracks, and the poor souls who just got messed up by history. 24k's problems would be from being that second type - I'm rooting for him tho, I met him on Discord and he seems like a great guy. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 11, 2021 14:49:23 GMT -5
All of that is true enough, but Psy did have another top ten hit (Perfect Gentleman) and Desiigner had another YE hit with Timmy Turner. I'm rooting for him too, and I'm glad you've found he is a good guy  . It's always nice when we can hope for good music from people we approve of. |
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Post by Gary on Aug 11, 2021 17:21:26 GMT -5
That’s a blur but I miss when Paul Grein would reveal many of other Hot 100 positions the day of the top 10 reveal, note achievements that Billboard did not note, and even give sales numbers/totals not given by Billboard. Whoever decided to end his column at Yahoo! is probably apart of the reason why that site hasn’t been able to be relevant in general since the 2000s. Paul Grein though is alive and well and still works for Billboard - occasionally writing trivia columns but his current title is awards show editor |
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Post by ontopofthis on Aug 11, 2021 21:24:44 GMT -5
That’s a blur but I miss when Paul Grein would reveal many of other Hot 100 positions the day of the top 10 reveal, note achievements that Billboard did not note, and even give sales numbers/totals not given by Billboard. Whoever decided to end his column at Yahoo! is probably apart of the reason why that site hasn’t been able to be relevant in general since the 2000s. It was not relevant even with his column |
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Post by ontopofthis on Aug 11, 2021 21:30:27 GMT -5
The problem is that airplay as they use it is really faulty Audience impressions and such isn’t a great measure but it’s probably the best that’s out there. I think not including it would be a disservice to what the chart should be measuring (presumably), which is song popularity or at least determining what the most consumed songs are week to week. They are faulty, though. Whether that is the best they have is not pertinent to that. It is like how Nielsen television streaming charts are faulty and how the streaming services say that they are not accurate with their data. And if Billboard really wanted to track the most consumed whatever for each week, they would not have streaming tiers to count certain streams as more than others or any price requirements on purchases |
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Post by Naos on Aug 11, 2021 21:32:58 GMT -5
All of that is true enough, but Psy did have another top ten hit (Perfect Gentleman) and Desiigner had another YE hit with Timmy Turner. I'm rooting for him too, and I'm glad you've found he is a good guy  . It's always nice when we can hope for good music from people we approve of. Psy also has a pretty relevant career in South Korea, though he hasn't released anything as a solo artist since 2017. |
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Post by gikem on Aug 11, 2021 21:37:18 GMT -5
Yeah, it's a shame 24kGoldn has kinda become irrelevant after Mood, that debut album wasn't too shabby for what it was.
On the other hand, arguably the people who benefitted the most from Mood's success might actually be the primary producers, Omer Fedi and Blake Slatkin. Fedi in particular now has 3 #1 hits under his belt, the other two being Montero and Stay (the latter of which was also co-produced by Slatkin). Based on those three songs' success, his style of production and song structure seems to really be clicking in the current pop ecosystem - I can see him being one of the most essential producers of the 2020s by the end of the decade.
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Post by rosalina4812 on Aug 11, 2021 22:12:27 GMT -5
Yeah, it's a shame 24kGoldn has kinda become irrelevant after Mood, that debut album wasn't too shabby for what it was. On the other hand, arguably the people who benefitted the most from Mood's success might actually be the primary producers, Omer Fedi and Blake Slatkin. Fedi in particular now has 3 #1 hits under his belt, the other two being Montero and Stay (the latter of which was also co-produced by Slatkin). Based on those three songs' success, his style of production and song structure seems to really be clicking in the current pop ecosystem - I can see him being one of the most essential producers of the 2020s by the end of the decade. Wow did not know about Omer Fedi netting hits left and right. Good for him. |
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Post by gikem on Aug 11, 2021 22:49:31 GMT -5
Yeah, it's a shame 24kGoldn has kinda become irrelevant after Mood, that debut album wasn't too shabby for what it was. On the other hand, arguably the people who benefitted the most from Mood's success might actually be the primary producers, Omer Fedi and Blake Slatkin. Fedi in particular now has 3 #1 hits under his belt, the other two being Montero and Stay (the latter of which was also co-produced by Slatkin). Based on those three songs' success, his style of production and song structure seems to really be clicking in the current pop ecosystem - I can see him being one of the most essential producers of the 2020s by the end of the decade. Wow did not know about Omer Fedi netting hits left and right. Good for him. Not to mention he's only 21 and has already worked for several artists that are older than him. I'm not sure if he'll gain the same level of notoriety as Timbaland or The Neptunes over the next 10+ years, but he's absolutely here to stay and rack up those hits. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Aug 11, 2021 22:52:29 GMT -5
Yeah, at worst he'll be an answer to trivia questions about the most songwriters for a non-sampled song or something like that . |
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Post by monkeydluffy on Aug 12, 2021 3:05:11 GMT -5
All of that is true enough, but Psy did have another top ten hit (Perfect Gentleman) and Desiigner had another YE hit with Timmy Turner. I'm rooting for him too, and I'm glad you've found he is a good guy . It's always nice when we can hope for good music from people we approve of. Psy also has a pretty relevant career in South Korea, though he hasn't released anything as a solo artist since 2017. He created his label “P Nation” and has kinda stepped back from making music to expand it with new artists. It seems like he wants to be the next big label executive like JYP. I do miss him making music tho |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Aug 12, 2021 7:24:34 GMT -5
Audience impressions and such isn’t a great measure but it’s probably the best that’s out there. I think not including it would be a disservice to what the chart should be measuring (presumably), which is song popularity or at least determining what the most consumed songs are week to week. They are faulty, though. Whether that is the best they have is not pertinent to that. It is like how Nielsen television streaming charts are faulty and how the streaming services say that they are not accurate with their data. And if Billboard really wanted to track the most consumed whatever for each week, they would not have streaming tiers to count certain streams as more than others or any price requirements on purchases I think the tiers and differences between them are a matter of opinion, where there’s no definitive right or wrong answer. My interpretation of placing more value over subscription vs free is the presumption that people paying to hear a song are more active listeners compared to those not paying. Similarly to why a single sale is worth much more than a stream pointswise. Having restrictions and price requirements is something that doesn’t make as much sense to me. Other than the fact it can be equally manipulated or can skew the results (and maybe that’s why), I don’t see why a free digital download shouldn’t be counted but free streaming is. Similar to the album chart, where a new release only counts if the sale price is $3.49 within the first month - but free streams contribute to the album’s total during that time? Either way, you can’t not include radio. Doing so means cutting out huge demographics of people who do consume music, just not through streaming or sales. |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Aug 12, 2021 20:50:05 GMT -5
A complete list of songs that have been #1 during the 87-week run of Blinding Lights:
1. Heartless
2. All I Want For Christmas Is You
3. Circles
4. The Box
5. Blinding Lights
6. Toosie Slide
7. The Scotts
8. Say So
9. Stuck With U
10. Savage
11. Rain On Me
12. Rockstar
13. Trollz
14. Cardigan
15. Watermelon Sugar
16. WAP
17. Dynamite
18. Franchise
19. Savage Love
20. Mood
21. positions
22. Life Goes On
23. Willow
24. drivers license
25. What's Next
26. Up
27. Peaches*
28. Montero*
29. Leave the Door Open*
30. Rapstar
31. Save Your Tears
32. Good 4 u*
33. Butter*
34. Permission To Dance
35. Stay*
Only songs with a * have yet to record a week in which it has charted below BL.
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