Billboard Hot 100: 08/14/2021

[phieaglesfan712]

The thing I remember most about Lana on the charts is that High by the Beach's #7 ranking was rescinded, and was placed at #51, back in 2015, when Cheerleader reclaimed the #1 spot over CFMF. I believe this was one of the first weeks after the reveal was moved up 2 days from Wednesday to Monday.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jul 31, 2021 9:25:30 GMT -5 Abbaschand said:

Jul 31, 2021 9:05:21 GMT -5 Limited Edition said:

I would agree but Lana never had a huge worldwide hit. And she was never anywhere close to as popular as Billie.

Umm, hello? Summertime Sadness?

Summertime Sadness isn't even bigger than everything i wanted in terms of international charts success

[iHype.]

Jul 31, 2021 7:30:00 GMT -5 strongerq said:

Jul 30, 2021 15:55:01 GMT -5 iHype. said:

This is obviously very early but it seems based off Apple Music so far Billie’s album will probably do 175-225m streams first week.

I thought similar, but guess not after all.

Spotify US: 12,474,996   (WWAFAWDWG had 20,835,940)

Global Spotify: 35,591,412  (WWAFAWDWG had 46,936,356)

AM US(24 hour mark) for WWAFAWDWG was:

Compared to what shayonce posted is worse.

SPOILER: Click to show

{Spoiler}

WWAFAWDWG did 194M, this will be lower.

Wow I thought her Spotify numbers would be much bigger, that’s unfortunate.

I hope Oxytocin becomes a hit.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

I’m sure Lana laughs at the bank every morning. She’s more than fine. You don’t need Hot 100 hits to be successful.

[Ryan]

Lana's whole first album was a huge worldwide success. But do we really need to compare two highly successful, influential and talanted two female artists?

[lurker2]

Jul 31, 2021 10:12:50 GMT -5 Ryan said:

Lana's whole first album was a huge worldwide success. But do we really need to compare two highly successful, influential and talanted two female artists?

Yes. What do stans do if not have d!ck measuring contests?

Anyway, Lana never had Billie's peaks (at least in the US). But abroad, Video Games was a huge hit and BTD was more succesful. After that she was never a huge name (like Billie now huge), but she's still one of the most streamed female artists. If Billie follows her career trajectory, she'll be more than fine. Still, I'd love if Billie could stay in the limelight more than Lana - I love the idea of someone she influenced so much having so much success.

[suzcruz7]

Jul 31, 2021 8:11:40 GMT -5 iamsorare said:

Billie Eilish is the new lana del ray..big first era with a huge worldwide hit,second album less successful than the first and we know what happens next

Her Norman F*cking Rockwell is still to come?  Let's gooooooooooo!

[Groovy]

It's funny cause when you listen to some of early work, Billie sounds alot like Lana, it's great that she got her own sound that ironically pop girls now copying.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

If we do lose Billie from the mainstream, I'm just worried that we'll be stuck with Tate McRae as her replacement

[nak]

Wasn't Happier than Ever a sound on tiktok for a while? Like at the 1:50 mark. 

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 07/29/21

1(+1) The Kid LAROI - STAY 2,105,502 (+60,684)
2(-1) Lil Nas X - INDUSTRY BABY 2,045,039 (+221)
3(=) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 1,478,782 (-1,217)
4(debut) Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever 1,476,516
5(-1) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 1,147,032 (+16,568)
6(debut) Billie Eilish - Getting Older 1,047,925
7(debut) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Skate 1,045,066
8(debut) Billie Eilish - Oxytocin 965,078
9(debut) Billie Eilish - Billie Bossa Nova 948,543
10(debut) Billie Eilish - I Didn't Change My Number 936,730

Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever
21(+31) NDA 763,095 (+408,939)
22(debut) GOLDWING 740,450
23(debut) Hailey's Comet 737,929
25(+170) Lost Cause 722,636 (+523,702)
27(re-entry) my future 695,986
35(debut) OverHeated 606,606
36(debut) Not My Responsibility 601,628
37(debut) Male Fantasy 581,572
38(debut) Everybody Dies 579,568
40(re-entry) Your Power 549,678
46(re-entry) Therefore I Am 521,056
Total Streams: 12,474,996

Others:
11(-6) Doja Cat - Ain't Shit 918,528 (+6,231)
12(-6) Måneskin - Beggin' 917,506 (+16,546)
13(-6) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 900,752 (+25,537)
14(-1) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 895,733 (+86,214)
15(-6) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 880,655 (+30,164)
16(-8) Dua Lipa - Levitating 878,196 (+18,442)
17(-7) Doja Cat - Need to Know 854,340 (+20,951)
18(-6) Olivia Rodrigo - traitor 806,101 (-15,708)
19(-8) Polo G - RAPSTAR 799,763 (-25,137)
20(-6) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 767,230 (-11,799)
24(-8) Sleepy Hallow - 2055 737,874 (+48,616)
26(+4) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open 698,927 (+208,639)
28(-13) Post Malone - Motley Crew 663,285 (-61,830)
30(-10) Megan Thee Stallion - Thot Shit 626,996 (+17,883)
31(-10) Justin Bieber - Peaches 626,175 (+20,314)
32(debut) Isaiah Rashad - From the Garden 620,719
33(-14) The Kid LAROI - NOT SOBER 611,888 (-16,423)
34(-16) Smiley - Over the Top 610,745 (-28,149)
37(-10) Walker Hayes - Fancy Like 563,472 (+49,845)
41(-17) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 545,410 (+3,905)
42(-16) Bad Bunny - Yonaguni 545,082 (+15,085)
43(-21) Olivia Rodrigo - favorite crime 534,711 (-29,936)
45(-20) Doja Cat, The Weeknd - You Right 522,640 (-9,085)
47(-18) Rauw Alejandro - Todo De Ti 512,381 (+10,238)
49(-21) Olivia Rodrigo - happier 489,102 (-18,383)
50(-18) Olivia Rodrigo - jealousy, jealousy 470,486 (-14,050)
51(-18) Olivia Rodrigo - brutal 469,444 (-9,489)
52(-18) DaBaby - Ball If I Want To 463,979 (-12,609)
53(-17) BTS - Butter 449,040 (-5,949)
55(-17) Surf Curse - Freaks 445,988 (+5,608)
56(debut) Isaiah Rashad - RIP Young 440,641
57(-22) WILLOW - t r a n s p a r e n t s o u l 427,804 (-29,555)
58(-16) DJ Khaled - EVERY CHANCE I GET 427,190 (+2,944)
59(-16) Måneskin - I WANNA BE YOUR SLAVE 423,580 (+838)
61(-16) Giveon - Heartbreak Anniversary 414,180 (+4,524)
62(debut) Logic - Theme for the People 411,088
64(-20) BTS - Permission to Dance 405,624 (-15,791)
65(-18) Marshmello - Leave Before You Love Me 401,583 (+7,847)
66(-26) DaBaby - Red Light Green Light 400,858 (-34,020)
69(debut) Isaiah Rashad - Darkseid 376,188
70(-22) Camila Cabello - Don't Go Yet 373,356 (-14,481)
71(debut) Isaiah Rashad - Claymore 366,541
72(-22) PinkPantheress - Pain 366,266 (+8,391)
73(re-entry) Isaiah Rashad - Lay Wit Ya 359,583
74(re-entry) Isaiah Rashad - Headshots (4r Da Locals) 358,645
76(re-entry) Logic - Vaccine 351,838
77(-22) Kali Uchis - telepatía 345,437 (+1,531)
83(-29) Bo Burnham - Bezos I 339,107 (-11,369)
86(-17) Nelly, Florida Georgia Line - Lil Bit 335,684 (+15,998)
87(re-entry) Isaiah Rashad - Wat U Sed 334,283
88(-35) Tyler The Creator, YoungBoy Never Broke Again, Ty Dolla $ign - WUSYANAME 333,982 (-19,153)
89(-29) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 332,923 (-4,844)
90(debut) Logic - See You Space Cowboy... 332,860
94(-31) Jason Aldean, Carrie Underwood - If I Didn't Love You 319,413 (-15,504)
95(-21) Doja Cat - Woman 317,990 (+15,790)
96(+37) The Kid LAROI - STILL CHOOSE YOU 317,252 (+83,313)
97(debut) Logic - introll 312,954
99(-42) Roddy Ricch - Late At Night 308,951 (-32,313)

101(-41) Pop Smoke - Bout a Million 307,595 (-11,032)
104(-23) BIA - WHOLE LOTTA MONEY Remix 298,519 (+6,067)
105(-15) Nio Garcia, J Balvin, Bad Bunny - AM Remix 298,425 (+16,022)
115(re-entry) Dan + Shay - Glad You Exist 285,851
118(-20) Tai Verdes - A-O-K 284,329 (+14,244)
121(-26) Luke Combs - Forever After All 283,094 (+6,632)
122(-47) Trippie Redd, Lil Uzi Vert - Holy Smoke 282,732 (-14,913)
127(-42) Normani - Wild Side 279,667 (-7,525)
131(-45) Interney Money - His & Hers 277,222 (-8,124)
140(-40) Bo Burnham - Welcome to the Internet 268,665 (+1,936)
120(-8) Farruko - Pepas 283,275 (+30,961)
141(debut) Bleachers - Secret Life 268,102
142(-38) J Balvin, Maria Becerra - Qué Más Pues? 267,437 (+7,865)
148(-39) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 256,416 (+1,829)
152(debut) Dermot Kennedy - Better Days 253,482
154(debut) The Kid LAROI - BEST FOR ME 248,542
155(-28) Mora, Bad Bunny, Sech - Volando Remix 246,064 (+7,969)
167(-50) Yot Club - YKWIM? 238,659 (-9,274)
170(-40) Kane Brown, blackbear - Memory 237,423 (+1,618)
174(-49) Conan Gray - People Watching 235,040 (-8,055)
176(-40) Polo G - GANG GANG 233,961 (+1,522)
178(debut) Dan + Shay - Lying 232,611
181(-40) Lil Baby, Lil Durk - Hats Off 231,712 (+5,346)
186(-60) Beach House - Space Song 229,363 (-9,848)

Total Streams for Save Your Tears: 801,826

Biggest Gains (50K+): Leave the Door Open, Lost Cause, NDA, Bad Habits, STAY

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/07/31

1(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating 96.43(-0.32)
2(=) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More (feat. SZA) 86.83(+0.21)
3(=) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 86.18(+0.40)
4(=) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 77.47(-0.10)
5(=) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 75.03(+0.59)
6(=) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 71.13(+0.78)
7(=) Justin Bieber - Peaches (feat. Daniel Caesar & GIVĒON) 67.88(-0.66)
8(=) The Weeknd & Ariana Grande - Save Your Tears (Remix) 58.96(-0.08)

9(=) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak & Silk Sonic - Leave The Door Open 57.63(-0.99)
10(=) GIVĒON - Heartbreak Anniversary 50.95(+0.04)

11(=) Chase Rice - Drinkin' Beer. Talkin' God. Amen. (feat. Florida Georgia Line) 48.29(+0.98)

22(=) Luke Bryan - Waves 37.16(+0.82)

23(+1) Justin Moore - We Didn't Have Much 36.77(+0.64)

27(+1) Doja Cat & The Weeknd - You Right 33.84(+0.60)

30(=) The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber - STAY 32.50(+0.71) +

45(+2) Scotty McCreery - You Time 25.68(+0.60)

53(=) Jameson Rodgers - Cold Beer Calling...f/L. Combs 22.48(+0.62)

94(-21) Camila Cabello - Don't Go Yet 14.31(-3.86)

-(-) Luke Combs - Cold As You 9.04(+0.60)

-(-) Lil Nas X & Jack Harlow - INDUSTRY BABY 4.47(+1.18)

[kierz7]

Simply •AWFUL• numbers for Eilish.

The album has done less first-day numbers than Grande’s “Sweetener” with more tracks, in 2021, as well as less than Bieber’s “Changes”, two albums of which were/are widely considered to be major underperformances (if not outright flops). She’s also done less than “Fearless” re-release.

I personally feel she should’ve released the album not too long after “Tberefore I Am” or, arguably, “Your Power”.

Perhaps she can recover throughout the week and grow...

[Ryan]

Is it really that •AWFUL• ?

[phieaglesfan712]

Jul 31, 2021 11:39:12 GMT -5 Ryan said:

Is it really that •AWFUL• ?

We'll just have to wait and see. If Billie's album comes in below the 80k that Kid Laroi had last week, then it's panic time. Ever since Sour was released, the #1 on the Billboard 200 has gotten lower and lower each week. The #1 didn't even reach 100k the past 2 weeks, and that's very concerning.

[kalmanta]

Jul 31, 2021 11:44:25 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Jul 31, 2021 11:39:12 GMT -5 Ryan said:

Is it really that •AWFUL• ?

We'll just have to wait and see. If Billie's album comes in below the 80k that Kid Laroi had last week, then it's panic time. Ever since Sour was released, the #1 on the Billboard 200 has gotten lower and lower each week. The #1 didn't even reach 100k the past 2 weeks, and that's very concerning.

People seem to stream older music more these days, which is kinda odd with more heavy hitters releasing music than last year.

[korbel16]

Sour’s record is safe 😇 but damn poor Billie

[dremolus - solarpunk]

...some of you people either need to go outside or just listen to music not charting. Preferably both.

Sone of you just have EA levels of delusion and strictness when it comes to expectations for commercial performance.

[Clode]

Jul 31, 2021 13:10:12 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

...some of you people either need to go outside or just listen to music not charting. Preferably both.

It's funny that you say that since I'm actually frequently listening to many Songs that aren't even close to charting on the Hot 100, Obviously there are a lot of Great songs that never get the success that they deserve. 

[atg]

Once again, an album doesn’t need to perform exactly 1:1 with the previous era to be successful.

[kindofbiased]

Oh no, Billie only got TWO songs with over a million streams in their first day guys she's a flop! She's practically on the streets at this point her career is so finished there's no possible way to recover from such a massive failure

[gikem]

Y'all are complaining about Billie flopping, as if Lorde didn't have only one top 20 hit from Melodrama that faded relatively quickly back in 2017 and very few charting songs since. She turned out just fine in the long run, and so too will Billie.

You don't need the charts to be successful in music. Unless you're Maroon 5, I guess.

[violentdreams]

Jul 31, 2021 14:01:03 GMT -5 kindofbiased said:

Oh no, Billie only got TWO songs with over a million streams in their first day guys she's a flop! She's practically on the streets at this point her career is so finished there's no possible way to recover from such a massive failure

An album can underperform without putting an artist on the street, that's something nobody would deny and nobody said in the first place. Doing mid tier rapper numbers (for example, both DaBaby and Playboi Carti outstreamed her on Spotify first day with their last albums) when you're supposed to be one of the biggest pop stars on the planet is not excusable. Her hype was completely botched by terrible single choices and she lost a tremendous amount of momentum because of that, you don't have to think her career is over for that to be true.

[kindofbiased]

Jul 31, 2021 14:31:52 GMT -5 violentdreams said:

Jul 31, 2021 14:01:03 GMT -5 kindofbiased said:

Oh no, Billie only got TWO songs with over a million streams in their first day guys she's a flop! She's practically on the streets at this point her career is so finished there's no possible way to recover from such a massive failure

An album can underperform without putting an artist on the street, that's something nobody would deny and nobody said in the first place. Doing mid tier rapper numbers (for example, both DaBaby and Playboi Carti outstreamed her on Spotify first day with their last albums) when you're supposed to be one of the biggest pop stars on the planet is not excusable. Her hype was completely botched by terrible single choices and she lost a tremendous amount of momentum, you don't think her career is over for that to be true.

I just think acting as if a hit making career is over and saying she got "just AWFUL numbers" is a bit ridiculous for an album that debuted entirely in the spotify top 50 along with 2 songs hitting over a million streams. It feels like people on here are greatly overreacting to what is still a good debut 

[violentdreams]

Jul 31, 2021 14:38:47 GMT -5 kindofbiased said:

Jul 31, 2021 14:31:52 GMT -5 violentdreams said:

An album can underperform without putting an artist on the street, that's something nobody would deny and nobody said in the first place. Doing mid tier rapper numbers (for example, both DaBaby and Playboi Carti outstreamed her on Spotify first day with their last albums) when you're supposed to be one of the biggest pop stars on the planet is not excusable. Her hype was completely botched by terrible single choices and she lost a tremendous amount of momentum, you don't think her career is over for that to be true.

I just think acting as if a hit making career is over and saying she got "just AWFUL numbers" is a bit ridiculous for an album that debuted entirely in the spotify top 50 along with 2 songs hitting over a million streams. It feels like people on here are greatly overreacting to what is still a good debut 

You're right, it just feels like you're responding to a point nobody made in the first place lol. If I came in here last year telling people she would only pull 12.5m streams first day with her second album, I would be laughed at and told I'm greatly underestimating her. It's just a shame because if the reactions I'm seeing online are any indication, this could have done a lot better with smarter single choices; it was not doomed to underperform from the beginning. However, the debut is only one part of it, she can always prove herself in the long term. If people truly love the album as much as they say they do, that should be proven over time.

[strongerq]

Jul 31, 2021 12:15:25 GMT -5 kalmanta said:

People seem to stream older music more these days, which is kinda odd with more heavy hitters releasing music than last year.

Well that has been the case for years. In 2021 both current & back catalogue grew (the latter grew more). So in 2021 current hits get more streams than in 2020, people stream more.

Also i wouldn't say people consume more old music, more like older generations are transitioning on streaming (so we can see the "real" numbers). Also i don't think there is need to explain on a music forum that people 35+ tend to listen mostly to music they grew up with, so they contribute to catalogue but lot less to current songs/albums. There have been researches on this topic and what not.

Young people, almost all (in the USA) use streaming platforms, but there are still older people that might/will transition to streaming. So the catalogue streams will rise with faster rate than current streaming. So i expect this rate to be 3/4 old & 1/4 current in like 5 years. Current streaming will reach its "peak" sooner than catalogue. I won't pretend to be an oracle, but with the rate current streaming gain year over year is decreasing, it should peak mid/late 20s (US). Now by peak i don't mean it will reach a number and go downhill from there, but it will reach a number and stay around it each year (with the assumption US population number doesn't drastically change).

Also keep in mind catalogue is "only" 18 months old+. Some albums that probably aren't that old are contributing to those numbers.

Album units:

year	catalogue	current	%
2019m	125.3M	226.3M	64% / 36%
2019	433.92M	244.08M	64% / 36%
2020m	244.5M	138.4M	63.9% / 36.1%
2020	/	/	63.3% / 36.7%
2021m	288.6M	146.1M	66.4% / 33.6%

2020 only Audio was reported in their Y/E report, because they changed the filltering, so album units were from Audio streams only - that is why i didn't include the numbers (can;t eb compared to other years).

[kindofbiased]

Jul 31, 2021 14:51:33 GMT -5 violentdreams said:

Jul 31, 2021 14:38:47 GMT -5 kindofbiased said:

I just think acting as if a hit making career is over and saying she got "just AWFUL numbers" is a bit ridiculous for an album that debuted entirely in the spotify top 50 along with 2 songs hitting over a million streams. It feels like people on here are greatly overreacting to what is still a good debut 

You're right, it just feels like you're responding to a point nobody made in the first place lol. If I came in here last year telling people she would only pull 12.5m streams first day with her second album, I would be laughed at and told I'm greatly underestimating her. It's just a shame because if the reactions I'm seeing online are any indication, this could have done a lot better with smarter single choices; it was not doomed to underperform from the beginning. However, the debut is only one part of it, she can always prove herself in the long term. If people truly love the album as much as they say they do, that should be proven over time.

that’s a fair point, I think part of my frustration comes from Twitter too where all rational thought about any topic whatsoever goes out the window. The cries of her flopping and being over are much more prevalent on there and seeing some of the reactions on here calling her numbers awful instead of just a slight downturn just made me 😐

[thegreatdivine]

I don't think Billie's career is doomed or over in any way but people aren't wrong for pointing out that her first-day Spotify figures are underwhelming.

These are the 10 biggest first-day female album debuts on global Spotify:
#1 folklore 80.6M
#2 thank u, next 70.2M
#3 evermore 67M
#4 SOUR 64M
#5 positions 59M
#6 Lover 55M
#7 Fearless (Taylor's Version) 50.8M
#8 Chromatica 48M
#9 WWAFA,WDWG 47M
#10 Happier Than Ever 37.3M

I'm not sure about the top 10 biggest first-day female album debuts on US Spotify (maybe strongerq has those figures), but with less than 13M from 16 songs, I'm sure it's at the bottom of that list as well (if it even makes the top 10 at all).

Considering Billie's current commercial standing in the musical landscape, the first-day figures her album put up on Spotify are an underperformance and it's not wrong for people to call that out, seeing as we do that for every major artist who performs lower than commercial expectations. That's comes with the territory.

While I believe it's a stretch to think it somehow means she's finished or that the album can't have good longevity in the future, it surely isn't off to a great start. I don't see the problem in pointing that out.

[kindofbiased]

In MUCH funnier news however…

[strongerq]

^^i don't.