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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Sept 17, 2021 11:07:12 GMT -5
Since when is cardi b gay Cardi B is openly bi and i interpretted the question to be about LGBT artists debuting at the top, which is why I included her. Oh and for the list, I only included artists who've publicly said their queer which is why Harry Styles and others aren't there because they haven't publicly said they're queer and even if it's heavily implied, I'm not comfortable including someone as being an LGBT artist if they haven't given a public statement. I don't want to jump. |
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 17, 2021 11:10:51 GMT -5
Since when is cardi b gay Cardi B is openly bi and i interpretted the question to be about LGBT artists debuting at the top, which is why I included her. Oh and for the list, I only included artists who've publicly said their queer which is why Harry Styles and others aren't there because they haven't publicly said they're queer and even if it's heavily implied, I'm not comfortable including someone as being an LGBT artist if they haven't given a public statement. I don't want to jump. Just out of curiosity, has Tyler The Creator spoken openly/publicly confirming he is gay/bisexual? I thought he was just a jokester who made "sus" jokes. lol |
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Post by Clode on Sept 17, 2021 11:25:15 GMT -5
To add to this conversation, Sir Elton John is of course an openly gay man and has been for many years now. It's pretty crazy how he hasn't had a studio album of his hit #1 on the Billboard 200 since 1976 especially considering that in the span of just four year 1972 - 1975 all six of his studio albums that he released during those years all hit #1 on the Billboard 200 chart.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Sept 17, 2021 11:25:45 GMT -5
Cardi B is openly bi and i interpretted the question to be about LGBT artists debuting at the top, which is why I included her. Oh and for the list, I only included artists who've publicly said their queer which is why Harry Styles and others aren't there because they haven't publicly said they're queer and even if it's heavily implied, I'm not comfortable including someone as being an LGBT artist if they haven't given a public statement. I don't want to jump. Just out of curiosity, has Tyler The Creator spoken openly/publicly confirming he is gay/bisexual? I thought he was just a jokester who made "sus" jokes. lol He openly came out as gay in 2017. Him coming out was actually part of the themes of Flower Boy. |
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Post by nickd on Sept 17, 2021 11:29:03 GMT -5
I wonder how it'll do compared to Love Story TV. |
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 17, 2021 11:31:43 GMT -5
Just out of curiosity, has Tyler The Creator spoken openly/publicly confirming he is gay/bisexual? I thought he was just a jokester who made "sus" jokes. lol He openly came out as gay in 2017. Him coming out was actually part of the themes of Flower Boy. I knew there were inferences made through his lyrics, but I was wondering if he ever actually publicly acknowledged it or confirmed it at all? |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Sept 17, 2021 11:43:53 GMT -5
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Post by s9983 on Sept 17, 2021 12:14:07 GMT -5
So far the montero album seems to rly have an underwhelming start on apple music. WIll assume it'll be much bigger on spotify, but i'm not so sure it'll be enough to top drake, who still occupies the entire top 10 of AM, and 19 out of the top 22 songs. His pure sales will have to be pretty big to outpace the streaming lead CLB has.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 17, 2021 12:51:37 GMT -5
The degree Lil Nas X leads openly with his sexuality and the way he reflects it in his visuals and art is a form of empowering representation I haven't really seen from any other "mainstream" gay artist personally. He is truly breaking down barriers in a different way than others who came before him. I love to see it and would love to see him hit the top with his debut, which is just an all around great/solid body of work! It's not only nice to see an artist come out, but truly embrace and explore his sexuality so unapologetically, proudly, and openly. gay is an umbrella term, the same way queer is I think it is but I’ve seen “queer” or “lgbtq+” used more as the umbrella term and “gay” used less in that and sense and more specifically for gay men. So if someone asks about “gay artists,” my assumption is always going to be, they’re talking about gay men, unless specified otherwise. Maybe the implication varies depending on location, age range, or whatever. |
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Post by mms82 on Sept 17, 2021 12:56:41 GMT -5
I could see Wildest Dreams TV debuting top 10. Love Story TV just missed and Wildest Dreams has more of an impetus (ie it's already getting just shy of a million streams a day on Spotify, and even with the Love Story hype Love Story OG wasn't close to that the day before Love Story TV dropped). I guess we'll have to wait and see what Spotify numbers are, but I wouldn't be surprised if it edges out Industry Baby for the Spotify Number One tomorrow (and then it'll hemorrhage listeners, but Love Story TV got almost 4m on its first day and I could see Wildest dreams doing around 3)
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Sept 17, 2021 13:02:18 GMT -5
I could see Wildest Dreams TV debuting top 10. Love Story TV just missed and Wildest Dreams has more of an impetus (ie it's already getting just shy of a million streams a day on Spotify, and even with the Love Story hype Love Story OG wasn't close to that the day before Love Story TV dropped). I guess we'll have to wait and see what Spotify numbers are, but I wouldn't be surprised if it edges out Industry Baby for the Spotify Number One tomorrow (and then it'll hemorrhage listeners, but Love Story TV got almost 4m on its first day and I could see Wildest dreams doing around 3) I know this probably won’t happen, but wouldn’t it be something if Wildest Dreams blocked IB from #1, and Taylor got payback for one of the #1’s she lost to OTR? |
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Post by Fears in the Fire on Sept 17, 2021 13:47:58 GMT -5
I wonder how it'll do compared to Love Story TV. Probably better because of its current tiktok momentum |
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Post by nickd on Sept 17, 2021 13:53:13 GMT -5
I could see Wildest Dreams TV debuting top 10. Love Story TV just missed and Wildest Dreams has more of an impetus (ie it's already getting just shy of a million streams a day on Spotify, and even with the Love Story hype Love Story OG wasn't close to that the day before Love Story TV dropped). I guess we'll have to wait and see what Spotify numbers are, but I wouldn't be surprised if it edges out Industry Baby for the Spotify Number One tomorrow (and then it'll hemorrhage listeners, but Love Story TV got almost 4m on its first day and I could see Wildest dreams doing around 3) 2m worldwide on Spotify in its first 4 hours according to Variety. Love Story TV numbers dropped quite a lot on second day though so maybe that also applies hourly - ie significantly fewer streams in its first 4 hours than its last 4 hours of the day? I can see it debuting with around 6m WW though. Probably a smaller drop than Love Story TV on second day due to more GP driven streams thanks to Tik Tok + only partial day streams (9am release). edit: nvm just remembered Spotify tracking ends at 7pm EST. Should be more like 3.8m debut then, but probably an increase on day 2. |
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Post by reputainbow on Sept 17, 2021 13:56:41 GMT -5
manifesting a top 10 debut for "wildest dreams (taylor's version)".
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Post by mms82 on Sept 17, 2021 14:00:34 GMT -5
Wildest Dreams OG peaked at 5, the dream would be for Wildest Dreams TV to peak at 4 or better
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Post by thegreatdivine on Sept 17, 2021 14:32:50 GMT -5
8+ hours since the release of Montero and Lil Nas X currently has 9 songs in the top 200 of the US Apple Music Song Chart, while the album is #3 on the US Apple Music Album Chart behind Certified Lover Boy & Donda. Current Positions:#13. Industry Baby (with Jack Harlow) #66. Montero (Call Me By Your Name) #78. Scoop (feat. Doja Cat) #82. Dead Right Now #84. That's What I Want #89. Dolla Sign Slime #142. One of Me (feat. Elton John) #181. The Art of Realization #194. Lost in the Citadel Massive gains should happen in the next 6-12 hours. #13 (=). Industry Baby (with Jack Harlow) #31 (+53). That's What I Want #38 (+28). Montero (Call Me By Your Name)
#42 (+36). Scoop (feat. Doja Cat)
#45 (+37). Dead Right Now
#46 (+43). Dolla Sign Slime (feat. Megan Thee Stallion)
#60 (+82). One of Me (feat. Elton John)
#72 (+109). The Art of Realization #80. Tales of Dominica
#75 (+119). Lost in the Citadel #91. Sun Goes Down #107. Am I Dreaming (feat. Miley Cyrus)
#110. Don't Want It
#115. Void #146. Life After Salem
The album is also now #2 on US Apple Music.
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Post by Enigma. on Sept 17, 2021 14:44:24 GMT -5
Hmm expected it to do a bit better but I guess he doesn't have the AM fanbase yet.
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Post by shaz196 on Sept 17, 2021 15:00:38 GMT -5
Kworb's AM chart is a bit delayed compared to the one on the AM app, the album has 6 songs in the top 40 now and life after salem is the lowest song at #117.
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Post by Enigma. on Sept 17, 2021 15:02:15 GMT -5
Is this the first time we've got half day (or few hours) data from Spotify? Massive opening if true (ofc it's global but still)
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Post by iamsorare on Sept 17, 2021 15:04:30 GMT -5
I expected more from lil nas x after two smash hits but it's okay...of course he can't be drake or kanye west..
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Post by iamsorare on Sept 17, 2021 15:05:19 GMT -5
Is this the first time we've got half day (or few hours) data from Spotify? Massive opening if true (ofc it's global but still) so maybe I was wrong about Spotify usa tomorrow..maybe Taylor will block lil nas and she will debut at #1.. |
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Post by thegreatdivine on Sept 17, 2021 15:06:06 GMT -5
Kworb's AM chart is a bit delayed compared to the one on the AM app, the album has 6 songs in the top 40 now and life after salem is the lowest song at #117. I'm not using Kworb. I'm using the app but it updated right after I made the post. I'll make another update again in like 8 hours. |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Sept 17, 2021 15:46:06 GMT -5
If Taylor outdebuts Lil Nas on his album release day..... It won't be as monumental as OTR blocking Me but man it would be a sight
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Post by atg on Sept 17, 2021 18:14:04 GMT -5
So far the montero album seems to rly have an underwhelming start on apple music. WIll assume it'll be much bigger on spotify, but i'm not so sure it'll be enough to top drake, who still occupies the entire top 10 of AM, and 19 out of the top 22 songs. His pure sales will have to be pretty big to outpace the streaming lead CLB has. It’s still Drake vs Kanye season out here but its not Nas X’s fault because he did announce it before Donda was surprise dropped. It is kinda sad that him and Halsey had their albums planned in advance to smash only for Hip Hop’s 2 biggest superstars to drop and also have a beef to fuel both albums. |
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Post by degen on Sept 17, 2021 20:05:47 GMT -5
Hmm expected it to do a bit better but I guess he doesn't have the AM fanbase yet. Honestly I wasn’t expecting Lil Nas X to be that dominant. His album will likely perform similar to how Doja Cat’s album is. He is a singles artist, so there will be several songs that will have longevity and stick around for a while. It seems like he picked the right next single for sure with “That’s What I Want.” The focus this week should be for them to push “Industry Baby” to #1 on the Hot 100. |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Sept 17, 2021 20:32:00 GMT -5
Hmm expected it to do a bit better but I guess he doesn't have the AM fanbase yet. Honestly I wasn’t expecting Lil Nas X to be that dominant. His album will likely perform similar to how Doja Cat’s album is. He is a singles artist, so there will be several songs that will have longevity and stick around for a while. It seems like he picked the right next single for sure with “That’s What I Want.” The focus this week should be for them to push “Industry Baby” to #1 on the Hot 100. If only Doja could pick the right single like LNX. Planet Her was grossly mismanaged by her label. It deserved better than just one Top 10. |
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Post by kimberly on Sept 17, 2021 20:36:45 GMT -5
Honestly I wasn’t expecting Lil Nas X to be that dominant. His album will likely perform similar to how Doja Cat’s album is. He is a singles artist, so there will be several songs that will have longevity and stick around for a while. It seems like he picked the right next single for sure with “That’s What I Want.” The focus this week should be for them to push “Industry Baby” to #1 on the Hot 100. If only Doja could pick the right single like LNX. Planet Her was grossly mismanaged by her label. It deserved better than just one Top 10. ??? I'm sure they're happy having 6 active hits instead of 1 more in the Top 10 lol. |
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Post by Caviar on Sept 17, 2021 20:38:34 GMT -5
Honestly I wasn’t expecting Lil Nas X to be that dominant. His album will likely perform similar to how Doja Cat’s album is. He is a singles artist, so there will be several songs that will have longevity and stick around for a while. It seems like he picked the right next single for sure with “That’s What I Want.” The focus this week should be for them to push “Industry Baby” to #1 on the Hot 100. If only Doja could pick the right single like LNX. Planet Her was grossly mismanaged by her label. It deserved better than just one Top 10. What the hell?? |
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Post by fridayteenage on Sept 17, 2021 20:41:40 GMT -5
Honestly I wasn’t expecting Lil Nas X to be that dominant. His album will likely perform similar to how Doja Cat’s album is. He is a singles artist, so there will be several songs that will have longevity and stick around for a while. It seems like he picked the right next single for sure with “That’s What I Want.” The focus this week should be for them to push “Industry Baby” to #1 on the Hot 100. If only Doja could pick the right single like LNX. Planet Her was grossly mismanaged by her label. It deserved better than just one Top 10. the era is obviously far from over. slowly getting through lil nas, scoop is more exciting than the new single or the megan song. |
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Post by jthentic on Sept 17, 2021 21:07:08 GMT -5
It looks like they're going to push That's What I Want after Industry Baby which means we might get another pop-punk hit. |
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