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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 14, 2021 20:55:13 GMT -5
Has it happened before? For some reason, I seem to remember it being a thing before - though I think it was for the album charts when albums were accidentally made available before the tracking period began? Idk Anti was the last notable album that was accidentally made available hours before midnight, and that caused it to debut early. They didn’t carry those sales over into the official week. It might have been with an Eminem album - and maybe I just misread it or something. Either way, I don’t think there should be carryovers ever so |
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Post by iHype. on Oct 14, 2021 21:00:00 GMT -5
Anti was the last notable album that was accidentally made available hours before midnight, and that caused it to debut early. They didn’t carry those sales over into the official week. It might have been with an Eminem album - and maybe I just misread it or something. Either way, I don’t think there should be carryovers ever so The Eminem Show’s release was moved up due to leaking, and it charted with less than 2 days of sales first week. They didn’t count those sales in another week though. Notorious BIG’s “Life After Death” also debuted a week early at #176 due to stores selling the album prematurely before its release date. If a song/album is sold in that week then it counts for that week. |
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Post by 85la on Oct 14, 2021 21:05:12 GMT -5
Yeah you are all referring to Street Date Violations (SDV's), where record stores make albums for sale illegally before the opening week, in which case those sales aren't carried over to the next week (I think they should though, because if the stores are violating the record labels' orders as to when they can start to go on sale, the labels have the right to redistribute the sales to the correct week), but I remember there was at least one case, Whitney Houston's I Look to You album in 2009, that registered a few thousand sales before its official debut week (not sure if it was due to SDV's or what) that would have been enough for it to chart, yet for some reason didn't chart until the next week where it debuted at #1. The sales weren't combined into that week at #1, but contributed to its cumulative sales total.
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Post by iHype. on Oct 14, 2021 21:12:44 GMT -5
Yeah Rose I think you might be referring to Street Date Violations (STD's), where record stores make it for sale illegally before the opening week, in which case those sales can't be carried over to the next week, but I remember there was at least one case, Whitney Houston's I Look to You album in 2009, that registered a few thousand sales before its official debut week (not sure if it was due to STD's or what) that would have been enough for it to chart, yet for some reason didn't chart until the next week where it debuted at #1. I think you got the wrong acronym. |
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Post by 85la on Oct 14, 2021 21:16:13 GMT -5
Yeah Rose I think you might be referring to Street Date Violations (STD's), where record stores make it for sale illegally before the opening week, in which case those sales can't be carried over to the next week, but I remember there was at least one case, Whitney Houston's I Look to You album in 2009, that registered a few thousand sales before its official debut week (not sure if it was due to STD's or what) that would have been enough for it to chart, yet for some reason didn't chart until the next week where it debuted at #1. I think you got the wrong acronym.  Corrected |
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Post by firefox on Oct 14, 2021 21:24:36 GMT -5
Random. I just saw Paramore's "Still Into You" charting on Spotify US. Is there a viral TikTok on this song?
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 14, 2021 21:35:04 GMT -5
It might have been with an Eminem album - and maybe I just misread it or something. Either way, I don’t think there should be carryovers ever so The Eminem Show’s release was moved up due to leaking, and it charted with less than 2 days of sales first week. They didn’t count those sales in another week though. Notorious BIG’s “Life After Death” also debuted a week early at #176 due to stores selling the album prematurely before its release date. If a song/album is sold in that week then it counts for that week. lol, I know. I was saying I thought I remembered a time when the rules were bent for one situation. That's all. I'm quite likely wrong. Nothing more than. Yeah you are all referring to Street Date Violations (SDV's), where record stores make albums for sale illegally before the opening week, in which case those sales aren't carried over to the next week (I think they should though, because if the stores are violating the record labels' orders as to when they can start to go on sale, the labels have the right to redistribute the sales to the correct week), but I remember there was at least one case, Whitney Houston's I Look to You album in 2009, that registered a few thousand sales before its official debut week (not sure if it was due to SDV's or what) that would have been enough for it to chart, yet for some reason didn't chart until the next week where it debuted at #1. The sales weren't combined into that week at #1, but contributed to its cumulative sales total. Yeah, that was probably it. The timeframe you're mentioning sounds about right. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 14, 2021 22:43:39 GMT -5
Easy on Me is #8 at Apple Music.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Oct 14, 2021 22:49:59 GMT -5
I've had it up to here with those Squid Game memes. Now I have to see it on the charts too? Watch the show and you'll see why it's being hyped up |
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Post by Choco on Oct 14, 2021 23:13:44 GMT -5
At this point Industry Baby not going #1 ain't Adele's fault. Sucks that it's actul week as the most popular song got blocked by mass buying but it is what it is (and he needs to promote the next couple singles).
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Post by fridayteenage on Oct 14, 2021 23:18:32 GMT -5
Anti was the last notable album that was accidentally made available hours before midnight, and that caused it to debut early. They didn’t carry those sales over into the official week. It might have been with an Eminem album - and maybe I just misread it or something. Either way, I don’t think there should be carryovers ever so i also remember 5sos got blocked from #1 thanks to some albums being shipped early. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 14, 2021 23:33:40 GMT -5
^I knew there was a relatively case of that, but couldn't remember who it involved. Anyway, 11k CDs from an album ticket bundle (remember those?) for Calm were sent and received before the actual release date and the second week it rose to #2 in the Billboard 200, 5k behind After Hours.
In that same article, it mentioned that Anti debuted at #27 based on two days of streaming and one of sales at Tidal. Also, that street day violations by record stores caused In Rainbows, Life After Death and Destiny Fulfilled to debut early.
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Post by Choco on Oct 14, 2021 23:53:51 GMT -5
Ah the ANTI mess... it's a testament to the quality of the music that it eventually became a really big era anyways. (Specially since the pre release singles failed to ignite the charts either).
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Oct 15, 2021 0:02:38 GMT -5
Ah the ANTI mess... it's a testament to the quality of the music that it eventually became a really big era anyways. (Specially since the pre release singles failed to ignite the charts either). Did they? Weren't Bitch Better Have My Money and FourFiveSeconds (which were originally for ANTI) big hits? |
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Post by Az Paynter on Oct 15, 2021 1:53:44 GMT -5
FFS was. BBHMM got a decent debut but fell off quickly if I recall correctly, and then 'American Oxygen' suffered a relative failure to launch.
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Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Oct 15, 2021 1:55:29 GMT -5
BBHMM didn’t last super long on the Hot 100 but I’d argue it has maintained a solid amount of cultural relevance
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Oct 15, 2021 7:14:34 GMT -5
Adele’s team going for No. 100 while LnX goes for No.1 - that’d be quite and iconic H100 bookend. since when is LnX gonna be #1? it's probably gonna be Stay again Anyway I'm so hoping she can do the impossible & break Taylor's record If LNX doesn’t get the #1, I’ll be left wondering why he waited until Thursday to put all the versions on iTunes. If he put them there last Friday, it would have been an easy #1. |
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Post by Choco on Oct 15, 2021 7:50:45 GMT -5
BBHMM actually outlasted FFS on the Hot 100. That one peaked way higher but legs were not there.
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Post by korbel16 on Oct 15, 2021 8:15:33 GMT -5
Since the tracking week has ended…did the army mass buy butter to make it not go recurrent this week?
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Oct 15, 2021 8:52:36 GMT -5
Since the tracking week has ended…did the army mass buy butter to make it not go recurrent this week? Probably not, considering BTS stans couldn't even get up to keep My Universe afloat in Week 3. LNX putting out the 8 versions of IB puts the 20-week streak of BTS holding the digital songs #1 in jeopardy. |
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Post by mms82 on Oct 15, 2021 9:33:21 GMT -5
Looks like Adele only did 289,487 in the US on Spotify yesterday— that doesn't look great for a debut
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Post by chartfreak on Oct 15, 2021 9:40:22 GMT -5
If that number is true, not surprising.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Oct 15, 2021 9:51:20 GMT -5
Looks like Adele only did 289,487 in the US on Spotify yesterday— that doesn't look great for a debut It had 5 hours of tracking... |
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Post by lurker2 on Oct 15, 2021 10:04:10 GMT -5
Looks like Adele only did 289,487 in the US on Spotify yesterday— that doesn't look great for a debut It had 5 hours of tracking... 1 hour, actually - Spotify uses UTC for days. |
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Oct 15, 2021 10:11:37 GMT -5
So nearly 300k... In a hour 💀. On a Thursday at 7pm est....
Yeah even if she kept "just" that pace all day, that's a 6.8m full day. Goodbye Drake's record
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Post by Groovy on Oct 15, 2021 10:20:31 GMT -5
Since the tracking week has ended…did the army mass buy butter to make it not go recurrent this week? Probably not, considering BTS stans couldn't even get up to keep My Universe afloat in Week 3. LNX putting out the 8 versions of IB puts the 20-week streak of BTS holding the digital songs #1 in jeopardy. But isn’t the song still at 1 on sales? |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Oct 15, 2021 10:24:24 GMT -5
Probably not, considering BTS stans couldn't even get up to keep My Universe afloat in Week 3. LNX putting out the 8 versions of IB puts the 20-week streak of BTS holding the digital songs #1 in jeopardy. But isn’t the song still at 1 on sales? My Universe was #1 on sales on last week’s chart, but I think IB’s 8 versions (even if it’s not enough to topple Stay for the Hot 100 #1) will be enough to top My Universe this week. Even in the unlikely case that IB doesn’t do it this week, Adele will certainly end the streak for good. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 15, 2021 10:36:03 GMT -5
Drunk (And I Don't Wanna Go Home) lost more than 10% audience for the week and is already out of kworb's top 100
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/10/15
1(=) The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber - STAY 108.72(+0.45)
2(=) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 95.51(-1.56) -
3(=) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 79.39(-0.66)
4(=) Lil Nas X & Jack Harlow - INDUSTRY BABY 78.38(+0.36)
5(=) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More f/Sza 70.93(-0.58)
6(=) Walker Hayes - Fancy Like 69.13(+0.85)
7(=) Wizkid - Essence (feat. Tems) 67.06(+0.60)
8(=) Måneskin - Beggin 65.64(+0.38)
9(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating 64.85(+0.20)
10(=) Doja Cat & The Weeknd - You Right 55.81(-0.14)
16(+1) Elvie Shane - My Boy 44.69(+1.39)
17(+1) Doja Cat - Need To Know 43.90(+0.65) 39(+2) Elton John & Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) 28.10(+0.83)
71(+3) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 18.44(+0.86)
-(-) Coldplay X BTS - My Universe 13.76(+0.84) -(-) Wale - Poke It Out f/J. Cole 8.69(+0.92)
-(-) Dvila - La Hora 1.46(+1.24) + -(-) Bring Me The Horizon - DiE4u 1.43(+0.99) +
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Oct 15, 2021 10:43:20 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/10/15
2(=) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 95.51(-1.56) -
3(=) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 79.39(-0.66)
4(=) Lil Nas X & Jack Harlow - INDUSTRY BABY 78.38(+0.36)
5(=) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More f/Sza 70.93(-0.58)
6(=) Walker Hayes - Fancy Like 69.13(+0.85)
7(=) Wizkid - Essence (feat. Tems) 67.06(+0.60)
8(=) Måneskin - Beggin 65.64(+0.38)
Radio might finally be letting go of older songs to make way for newer songs to shine. IB about to finally break the Stay/BH/G4u Top 3 stranglehold. You love to see it. |
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Post by rainygirl on Oct 15, 2021 11:35:27 GMT -5
Only one artist has heard all of Adele’s new album and that is .. Drake!
Gulp !!
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