Clode
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Post by Clode on Oct 21, 2021 12:36:01 GMT -5
You can't force or pressure a person to believe someone just because you believe in Kesha. People can like & defend Dr.Luke until it's been found guilty of rape accusation. Now that the case will be more transparent we'll see what really happened behind the scenes. If people continue to support Luke after he's been found guilty, than that would be a pity. Actually yes I can forcefully pressure 85la to believe in Kesha. He needs to realize that he came across as a complete jerk by defending a sexual abuser like Dr. Luke. In fact if 85la continues to defend that sexual abuser then I will have no problem completely lashing out at him for continuing to defend Dr. Luke.
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Post by spiritboy on Oct 21, 2021 12:44:30 GMT -5
You can't force or pressure a person to believe someone just because you believe in Kesha. People can like & defend Dr.Luke until it's been found guilty of rape accusation. Now that the case will be more transparent we'll see what really happened behind the scenes. If people continue to support Luke after he's been found guilty, than that would be a pity. Actually yes I can forcefully pressure 85la to believe in Kesha. He needs to realize that he came across as a complete jerk by defending a sexual abuser like Dr. Luke. In fact if 85la continues to defend that sexual abuser then I will have no problem completely lashing out at him for continuing to defend Dr. Luke. The thing is, from what i've read he is not supporting Dr.Luke, he simply doesn't believe rape accusations and yes, he is free to believe in whatever he wants to believe and you can not do a thing about it. Some people choose to wait until it's legally proven to condemn people, there's nothing wrong with this approach.
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Post by Naos on Oct 21, 2021 13:00:48 GMT -5
Actually yes I can forcefully pressure 85la to believe in Kesha. He needs to realize that he came across as a complete jerk by defending a sexual abuser like Dr. Luke. In fact if 85la continues to defend that sexual abuser then I will have no problem completely lashing out at him for continuing to defend Dr. Luke. The thing is, from what i've read he is not supporting Dr.Luke, he simply doesn't believe rape accusations and yes, he is free to believe in whatever he wants to believe and you can not do a thing about it. Some people choose to wait until it's legally proven to condemn people, there's nothing wrong with this approach. What's wrong with that approach is that it assumes that justice systems are perfect. And just as he is free to believe what he wants, others are just as free to criticize them for it.
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Post by kindofbiased on Oct 21, 2021 13:17:57 GMT -5
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Post by twelvevinylrecords on Oct 21, 2021 13:18:15 GMT -5
Yesterday someone was defending Chris Brown, now Dr. Luke? What the fuck y'all stop stanning sexual abusers it isn't that hard
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Post by nathanalbright on Oct 21, 2021 13:20:14 GMT -5
I didn't realize Dr. Luke had stans :/
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Post by Groovy on Oct 21, 2021 13:22:13 GMT -5
Kendrick's trending on Twitter because his PFP on Spotify changed.
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Post by nathanalbright on Oct 21, 2021 13:23:44 GMT -5
Don't people usually take that as someone being in album mode?
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Post by 85la on Oct 21, 2021 13:58:55 GMT -5
All of these attacks against me, yet people still failing to answer the simple question I posed: how do you know Dr. Luke is guilty? What is it about Kesha's claims that make it fact?
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Post by 85la on Oct 21, 2021 14:02:04 GMT -5
Actually yes I can forcefully pressure 85la to believe in Kesha. He needs to realize that he came across as a complete jerk by defending a sexual abuser like Dr. Luke. In fact if 85la continues to defend that sexual abuser then I will have no problem completely lashing out at him for continuing to defend Dr. Luke. The thing is, from what i've read he is not supporting Dr.Luke, he simply doesn't believe rape accusations and yes, he is free to believe in whatever he wants to believe and you can not do a thing about it. Some people choose to wait until it's legally proven to condemn people, there's nothing wrong with this approach. Thank you spiritboy , this is the main place from where I am coming from.
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Post by 85la on Oct 21, 2021 14:05:35 GMT -5
You can't force or pressure a person to believe someone just because you believe in Kesha. People can like & defend Dr.Luke until it's been found guilty of rape accusation. Now that the case will be more transparent we'll see what really happened behind the scenes. If people continue to support Luke after he's been found guilty, than that would be a pity. Actually yes I can forcefully pressure 85la to believe in Kesha. He needs to realize that he came across as a complete jerk by defending a sexual abuser like Dr. Luke. In fact if 85la continues to defend that sexual abuser then I will have no problem completely lashing out at him for continuing to defend Dr. Luke. It's too bad, I felt your earlier comment was more reasonable, but by all means yes, go ahead and do what you need to do..
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Post by 85la on Oct 21, 2021 14:06:04 GMT -5
Yesterday someone was defending Chris Brown, now Dr. Luke? What the f**k y'all stop stanning sexual abusers it isn't that hard I didn't realize Dr. Luke had stans :/ Never said I was a stan.
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Post by nathanalbright on Oct 21, 2021 14:07:52 GMT -5
Fair enough; others certainly have assumed it of you.
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Post by kingvavis on Oct 21, 2021 14:10:13 GMT -5
Kendrick's trending on Twitter because his PFP on Spotify changed. There are rumours he might drop something tonight, but these rumours always play with my heart π
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 21, 2021 14:26:46 GMT -5
I heard something might be coming from Kendrick tonight, either a single or possibly even an album. If there is something, I hope itβs connected to something larger and not just a one-off.
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Clode
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Post by Clode on Oct 21, 2021 14:52:42 GMT -5
Actually yes I can forcefully pressure 85la to believe in Kesha. He needs to realize that he came across as a complete jerk by defending a sexual abuser like Dr. Luke. In fact if 85la continues to defend that sexual abuser then I will have no problem completely lashing out at him for continuing to defend Dr. Luke. It's too bad, I felt your earlier comment was more reasonable, but by all means yes, go ahead and do what you need to do.. Ok then that's exactly what I'm going to do. You are a fucking miserable piece of shit and I am starting to think that you are just a Troll who is purposely seeking attention and that you aren't really a supporter of the #MeTooMovement.
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Post by spiritboy on Oct 21, 2021 15:57:36 GMT -5
You think you are better than Dr.Luke but you are as abusive as he is, that language you use it is disgusting. Instead of attacking and insulting people you can block them. Glad you showed your true colors. :kii:
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Post by Groovy on Oct 21, 2021 16:28:01 GMT -5
Once again writing my posts in the wrong thread.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Oct 21, 2021 17:26:40 GMT -5
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Post by 85la on Oct 21, 2021 17:31:09 GMT -5
It's too bad, I felt your earlier comment was more reasonable, but by all means yes, go ahead and do what you need to do.. Ok then that's exactly what I'm going to do. You are a f**king miserable piece of s**t and I am starting to think that you are just a Troll who is purposely seeking attention and that you aren't really a supporter of the #MeTooMovement. Do you feel better about yourself? I just feel sorry for you really. Your post has done nothing to hurt me. In fact paradoxically, I only feel stronger about myself. I expressed my opinion in what I believe was a respectful, reasonable manner without stooping to this level.
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Clode
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Post by Clode on Oct 21, 2021 18:06:49 GMT -5
Ok then that's exactly what I'm going to do. You are a f**king miserable piece of s**t and I am starting to think that you are just a Troll who is purposely seeking attention and that you aren't really a supporter of the #MeTooMovement. Do you feel better about yourself? I just feel sorry for you really. Your post has done nothing to hurt me. In fact paradoxically, I only feel stronger about myself. I expressed my opinion in what I believe was a respectful, reasonable manner without stooping to this level. Oh bitch please now you want to play the Victim, Believe me I have seen this kind of attention seeking online behavior before, It is very apparent that you are obviously purposely seeking attention. I fully believe in Kesha's allegation and I will continue to defend her from ignorant people like you.
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Post by Gary on Oct 21, 2021 18:10:43 GMT -5
You two should get a room LOL
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Post by nathanalbright on Oct 21, 2021 18:45:26 GMT -5
They want to use this room instead.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 21, 2021 18:48:53 GMT -5
Yikes
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Oct 21, 2021 18:52:48 GMT -5
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Post by spiritboy on Oct 21, 2021 18:59:53 GMT -5
Ok then that's exactly what I'm going to do. You are a f**king miserable piece of s**t and I am starting to think that you are just a Troll who is purposely seeking attention and that you aren't really a supporter of the #MeTooMovement. Do you feel better about yourself? I just feel sorry for you really. Your post has done nothing to hurt me. In fact paradoxically, I only feel stronger about myself. I expressed my opinion in what I believe was a respectful, reasonable manner without stooping to this level. Just put him on ignore. It's not like anything he posts would be useful for you :kii:
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Post by kimberly on Oct 21, 2021 19:47:47 GMT -5
don't bring her into this because we don't have time to deal with more sexual assault defenders... LORD this thread is off the rails. @staff lock her up!!!!
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Post by nathanalbright on Oct 21, 2021 20:09:52 GMT -5
This thread only has a couple more hours to go anyway.
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Post by Juan Carlos on Oct 22, 2021 0:05:52 GMT -5
Time to lock this thread. Anyway, before doing that, I'm just going to say that independently of the opinion anyone has about Dr. Luke or Kesha and their lawsuits and countersuits, which some of you can agree or disagree with and you should respect them, the chart discussion forum and the Hot 100 threads, by default, aren't the places where this could be discussed because this isn't a topic related to the charts, so please don't do this again and/or bring them back to the upcoming Hot 100 threads. However, you could continue to do so in the link of the thread below. pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/143852/kesha-sues-dr-lukeThat said, if any of you fail to do the aforementioned and this discussion somehow appears again in this part of the forum, you're going to automatically receive a warning for breaking rule #1 of the board's posting rules.
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