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Post by sheardbeard on Oct 11, 2021 15:52:29 GMT -5
Not necessarily this particular week, but does anyone foresee “Cold Heart” eventually hitting the top 10? Yes, it could go Top 10 as early as the album release week, and I could see it going to the Top 5 in the long run. That’s pretty wild. This would give Elton John his 28th top 10 hit, tying him with Stevie Wonder & Mariah Carey for 7th place among artists with the most top 10 hits. Also, at 74 years old, would this make him the oldest artist (with a current song) to hit the top 10? Brenda Lee is 76, but RATCT isn’t a new song (obviously).
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Oct 11, 2021 16:05:36 GMT -5
If we really want to get technical, Cold Heart really isn’t a new song either. It just combines two of Elton’s old songs - Elton singing Kiss the Bride for the verses and Dua singing Rocket Man during the chorus.
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Post by sheardbeard on Oct 11, 2021 16:10:28 GMT -5
If we really want to get technical, Cold Heart really isn’t a new song either. It just combines two of Elton’s old songs - Elton singing Kiss the Bride for the verses and Dua singing Rocket Man during the chorus. If we want to get even technical-er, it actually combines FOUR of Elton’s old songs: “Sacrifice”, “Rocket Man”, “Kiss the Bride” and “Where’s the Shoorah?” 😁
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Post by rainygirl on Oct 11, 2021 16:19:45 GMT -5
If we really want to get technical, Cold Heart really isn’t a new song either. It just combines two of Elton’s old songs - Elton singing Kiss the Bride for the verses and Dua singing Rocket Man during the chorus. If we want to get even technical-er, it actually combines FOUR of Elton’s old songs: “Sacrifice”, “Rocket Man”, “Kiss the Bride” and “Where’s the Shoorah?” 😁 completely missed “Where’s the Shoorah” 😅
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Post by wyckyd on Oct 11, 2021 16:26:42 GMT -5
If we really want to get technical, Cold Heart really isn’t a new song either. It just combines two of Elton’s old songs - Elton singing Kiss the Bride for the verses and Dua singing Rocket Man during the chorus. Elton actually sings “Sacrifice” during his part, Dua sings “Rocket Man” & “Kiss the Bride” and then there’s “Where’s the Shoorah?” during the outro.
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Post by sheardbeard on Oct 11, 2021 16:32:49 GMT -5
If we really want to get technical, Cold Heart really isn’t a new song either. It just combines two of Elton’s old songs - Elton singing Kiss the Bride for the verses and Dua singing Rocket Man during the chorus. Elton actually sings “Sacrifice” during his part, Dua sings “Rocket Man” & “Kiss the Bride” and then there’s “Where’s the Shoorah?” during the outro. The “no-no-no, NO-NO!” parts all throughout “Cold Heart” are from “Where’s the Shoorah?” as well.
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Post by TakeMe on Oct 11, 2021 16:38:19 GMT -5
Wats the force behind Cold Heart? Radio?
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Post by Zoibator on Oct 11, 2021 16:44:59 GMT -5
Is Cold Heart the first mashup song to be charted or were there other songs that combined 2 or more songs as one?
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Post by Groovy on Oct 11, 2021 16:46:59 GMT -5
Wats the force behind Cold Heart? Radio? It’s gaining in every metric but right now I would say sales since 4 on iTunes
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Post by fridayteenage on Oct 11, 2021 16:47:45 GMT -5
Assuming Good 4 U stays top 10 (which is probable), her 3 solo smashes would combine for a year in the T10.
Other women this century who have done so: Alicia (No One/If I Ain't Got You/Fallin), Adele (Someone Like You/Rolling in the Deep/Hello), Taylor (Shake it Off/Blank Space/You Belong with Me), Katy (Firework/Hot N Cold/Roar).
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Oct 11, 2021 16:49:44 GMT -5
Wats the force behind Cold Heart? Radio? No, it’s Elton John, you know the Rocket Man and arguably the most talented musician that has ever lived.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 11, 2021 16:51:47 GMT -5
Cold Heart got about half of its weekly points last week from streaming according to @ashres5's Twitter. Eventually, radio could become the more important factor. Also, last week it seems to have gotten the biggest share of points outside of My Universe, Butter and The Feels from song sales (~19%).
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Post by sheardbeard on Oct 11, 2021 17:01:29 GMT -5
Is Cold Heart the first mashup song to be charted or were there other songs that combined 2 or more songs as one? There have been a lot of medleys that have charted (Beatles, Beach Boys, Prince, among many others), but as far as interweaving multiple songs and changing their context to create a completely new, cohesive song… hmmm I can’t really think of any others.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Oct 11, 2021 17:03:34 GMT -5
Is Cold Heart the first mashup song to be charted or were there other songs that combined 2 or more songs as one? Stars on 45 medley, which interrupted Bette Davis Eyes run at #1 for a week in 1981.
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Post by rainygirl on Oct 11, 2021 17:05:52 GMT -5
Is Cold Heart the first mashup song to be charted or were there other songs that combined 2 or more songs as one? There have been a lot of medleys that have charted (Beatles, Beach Boys, Prince, among many others), but as far as interweaving multiple songs and changing their context to create a completely new, cohesive song… hmmm I can’t really think of any others. didn’t Pet Shop Boys have “Where the streets have no name/ can’t get my eyes off you” mashup as well ?
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Post by PREDS PRIDE on Oct 11, 2021 17:09:15 GMT -5
Wats the force behind Cold Heart? Radio? No, it’s Elton John, you know the Rocket Man and arguably the most talented musician that has ever lived. off topic but why does your signature say that? I mean that's a week from now and that doesn't seem to me like anything that would happen
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Oct 11, 2021 17:17:36 GMT -5
No, it’s Elton John, you know the Rocket Man and arguably the most talented musician that has ever lived. off topic but why does your signature say that? I mean that's a week from now and that doesn't seem to me like anything that would happen Because I’m sick of Butter and Stay being #1 for the past 20 weeks. It’s time we get something new, like Industry Baby or Fancy Like. If not, I’m just glad Adele is releasing on Friday.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 11, 2021 17:26:09 GMT -5
There have been a lot of medleys that have charted (Beatles, Beach Boys, Prince, among many others), but as far as interweaving multiple songs and changing their context to create a completely new, cohesive song… hmmm I can’t really think of any others. didn’t Pet Shop Boys have “Where the streets have no name/ can’t get my eyes off you” mashup as well ? Baby I Love Your Way/Freebird Medley by Will to Power reached #1 in 1988.
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Post by rainygirl on Oct 11, 2021 17:27:31 GMT -5
didn’t Pet Shop Boys have “Where the streets have no name/ can’t get my eyes off you” mashup as well ? Baby I Love Your Way/Freebird Medley by Will to Power reached #1 in 1988. YESSSSS!!! Good times man 😻
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Post by gikem on Oct 11, 2021 17:29:09 GMT -5
Is Cold Heart the first mashup song to be charted or were there other songs that combined 2 or more songs as one? There have been a lot of medleys that have charted (Beatles, Beach Boys, Prince, among many others), but as far as interweaving multiple songs and changing their context to create a completely new, cohesive song… hmmm I can’t really think of any others. Probably the most recent example (if this even qualifies) was this mashup of Thunder by Imagine Dragons and Young Dumb & Broke by Khalid that actually charted for a week in very early 2018: I suppose there have also been at least a couple Glee mashups that did something similar that also charted briefly when the show was at its peak, and every Christmas you'll probably hear that David Bowie/Bing Crosby mashup of Little Drummer Boy with an original tune called Peace On Earth (it's even older than the early '80s medleys you mentioned, but unlike those, it still gets recurrent airplay every holiday season to this day).
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Post by Limited Edition on Oct 11, 2021 17:32:57 GMT -5
Is it physically possible for a song that spent 90 weeks on the hot 100 to not suffer from overplay Blinding Lights somehow managed to do it. I still listen to it every day
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Post by Verisimilitude on Oct 11, 2021 17:36:28 GMT -5
Is Cold Heart the first mashup song to be charted or were there other songs that combined 2 or more songs as one? Stars on 45 medley, which interrupted Bette Davis Eyes run at #1 for a week in 1981. This also charted at #11 in 1990: The single samples from the following songs: {Spoiler}
0:00–0:04: Chubby Checker – "Let's Twist Again" 0:06–0:54: Glenn Miller – "In the Mood" 0:56–1:23: Bill Haley & His Comets – "Rock Around the Clock" 1:25–1:38: Bill Haley & His Comets – "Rock-A-Beatin' Boogie" 1:40–1:49: Little Richard – "Tutti Frutti" 1:51–2:17: The Everly Brothers – "Wake Up Little Susie" 2:19–2:26: Eddie Cochran – "C'mon Everybody" 2:28–2:42: Elvis Presley – "Hound Dog" 2:44–2:53: Bill Haley & His Comets – "Shake, Rattle and Roll" 2:55–3:03: Elvis Presley – "All Shook Up" 3:05–3:23: Elvis Presley – "Jailhouse Rock" 3:25–3:41: Danny and the Juniors – "At the Hop" 3:43–3:46: Little Richard – "Tutti Frutti" 3:48–6:05: Glenn Miller – "In the Mood", "Pennsylvania 6-5000", "Little Brown Jug", "American Patrol", "In the Mood"
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Post by rainygirl on Oct 11, 2021 17:41:58 GMT -5
There have been a lot of medleys that have charted (Beatles, Beach Boys, Prince, among many others), but as far as interweaving multiple songs and changing their context to create a completely new, cohesive song… hmmm I can’t really think of any others. Probably the most recent example (if this even qualifies) was this mashup of Thunder by Imagine Dragons and Young Dumb & Broke by Khalid that actually charted for a week in very early 2018: I suppose there have also been at least a couple Glee mashups that did something similar that also charted briefly when the show was at its peak, and every Christmas you'll probably hear that David Bowie/Bing Crosby mashup of Little Drummer Boy with an original tune called Peace On Earth (it's even older than the early '80s medleys you mentioned, but unlike those, it still gets recurrent airplay every holiday season to this day). I never heard of this but I love it ..
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Oct 11, 2021 17:53:39 GMT -5
The last medley to reached the top 20 was Andy Williams' Happy Holidays / The Holiday Season last holiday season. Previous to that, it appears the last medley to reach the top 40 was 0 To 100 / The Catch Up.
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Post by renfield75 on Oct 11, 2021 18:19:51 GMT -5
Elton is the king of charting with new versions of his old hits. In the 90s he charted with new versions of Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me (with George Michael), Don't Go Breaking My Heart (with RuPaul), and Candle In The Wind (for Princess Diana). Of those three, two went to number one. Maybe that bodes well for Cold Heart? If it goes top ten that will be something that neither Sacrifice nor Kiss The Bride managed to do originally.
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Post by sheardbeard on Oct 11, 2021 18:30:43 GMT -5
Elton is the king of charting with new versions of his old hits. In the 90s he charted with new versions of Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me (with George Michael), Don't Go Breaking My Heart (with RuPaul), and Candle In The Wind (for Princess Diana). Of those three, two went to number one. Maybe that bodes well for Cold Heart? If it goes top ten that will be something that neither Sacrifice nor Kiss The Bride managed to do originally. Of the four songs that comprise “Cold Heart”: “Rocket Man” peaked at #6 in 1972, “Kiss the Bride” peaked at #25 in 1983, and “Sacrifice” peaked #18 in 1990. “Where’s the Shoorah?” from 1976 wasn’t released as a single and thus didn’t chart.
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Post by Gary on Oct 11, 2021 18:31:40 GMT -5
Elton is the king of charting with new versions of his old hits. In the 90s he charted with new versions of Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me (with George Michael), Don't Go Breaking My Heart (with RuPaul), and Candle In The Wind (for Princess Diana). Of those three, two went to number one. Maybe that bodes well for Cold Heart? If it goes top ten that will be something that neither Sacrifice nor Kiss The Bride managed to do originally. Candle In The Wind actually hit twice as remakes of the original
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Oct 11, 2021 18:36:51 GMT -5
Because she enjoys working with them and likes the music they create together. Musicians are artists. They create. That's their top priority. They aren't strictly in it for the money and business, and being a musician isn't only about earnings and success. Can you imagine how horrible music would be if that were the case? Every single song being 100% calculated? Gross. Seeing Green is the top selling and streaming track from her last record too, so it's not like it was an outright flop that nobody was here for, it still brought in numbers. Let's not forget it wasn't even meant to be a single. The last project was not meant for immense success, it was a mixtape with mostly old material. But that track gained traction anyway. So even if excitement over those 3 collaborating isn't high, there's still enough there to be a draw, especially when said track is well received by critics and fans. But even ignoring all that, the fact still stands that a musician can collaborate with whoever they want and business decisions aren't necessary for that. This would hardly be the first time a group of artists often collaborate together. For example, Lady Gaga and Tony Bennett just released yet another collab album, and that certainly isn't a project to put butts in stadiums and earn billions of streams. Missy Elliott and Timbaland often worked with each other and the same group of artists incredibly often in the 2000s, and obviously not all of those were hits. Sometimes you just want to work with people you like because you enjoy it, not because you think it's a surefire hit. Besides, collabs that exist purely for the wow factor generally aren't that good and aren't big hits. I am not the one who questioned why she collaborated with Drake nor was I the one who said LNX would be a more exciting flashy collaboration , and I think you know that lol…I responded to what others put out there ….let’s just agree to disagree and move on with our day . I was just responding too. I’m not sure if you were specifically asking me. I assume Nicki collaborating with Wayne and Drake is easier for her for a variety of reasons that might include shared labels, familiarity, enjoyment working with them, general ease of getting it released, etc.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Oct 11, 2021 18:37:54 GMT -5
Okay but we all agreed last week to ignore phieaglesfan’s nonsense right?
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Post by rainygirl on Oct 11, 2021 19:04:08 GMT -5
I am not the one who questioned why she collaborated with Drake nor was I the one who said LNX would be a more exciting flashy collaboration , and I think you know that lol…I responded to what others put out there ….let’s just agree to disagree and move on with our day . I was just responding too. I’m not sure if you were specifically asking me. I assume Nicki collaborating with Wayne and Drake is easier for her for a variety of reasons that might include shared labels, familiarity, enjoyment working with them, general ease of getting it released, etc. it’s all good 😊
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