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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 18, 2022 22:38:06 GMT -5
Iโm thinking itโs more about listeners spreading out what theyโre listening to rather than sticking with a uniform set of hits to move on to collectively, and as a result, the remaining top songs, while they remain the same for longer, are still presumably getting less and less points over time.
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Post by Enigma. on Mar 19, 2022 0:23:53 GMT -5
I think pop radio is just picking the wrong songs.
They start playing a song that stalls at #25 on streaming like crazy - I don't see any point in that.
It's not surprising that songs with lukewarm response everywhere stall on radio too and makes it seem "slow" when in fact they just pick unpopular songs as new *cough* Charlie Puth over Encanto *cough*
One hit wonders like Glass Animals are anomalies, they'll are not likely to get another hit anyway so radio could happily stick to the one they have.
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Post by gikem on Mar 19, 2022 5:58:26 GMT -5
I think pop radio is just picking the wrong songs. They start playing a song that stalls at #25 on streaming like crazy - I don't see any point in that. It's not surprising that songs with lukewarm response everywhere stall on radio too and makes it seem "slow" when in fact they just pick unpopular songs as new *cough* Charlie Puth over Encanto *cough* One hit wonders like Glass Animals are anomalies, they'll are not likely to get another hit anyway so radio could happily stick to the one they have. Yeah, I think the pop radio charts we have now would look a fair bit different if the radio consolidation that has affected virtually all the major Pop stations didnโt exist. Probably would make listening to them a lot less tedious as well. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Mar 19, 2022 7:27:31 GMT -5
US Spotify - 03/18/22
1(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 996,970 (+63,592)
2(DEBUT) Juice WRLD - Sometimes 762,342
3(=) Carolina Gaitรกn - La Gaita, Mauro Castillo, Adassa, Rhenzy Feliz, Diane Guerrero, Stephanie Beatriz, Encanto Cast - We Don't Talk About Bruno 758,366 (+31,420)
4(-2) Kodak Black - Super Gremlin 755,958 (+22,336)
5(-1) Machine Gun Kelly - maybe 718,061 (+30,204)
6(-1) The Kid LAROI - STAY 713,069 (+32,934)
7(=) Lil Nas X - INDUSTRY BABY 661,346 (+35,613)
8(+1) Imagine Dragons - Enemy 644,803 (+46,531)
9(-1) Gunna, Future - pushin P 623,443 (+19,610)
10(-4) Nirvana - Something In The Way 618,008 (-44,114)
Others:
11(-1) Drake - Knife Talk 599,358 (+15,912)
12(-1) Megan Thee Stallion, Dua Lipa - Sweetest Pie 585,982 (+18,443)
13(+2) Doja Cat - Woman 574,337 (+46,237)
14(-2) The Walters - I Love You So 562,768 (-2,795)
15(-1) Doja Cat - Need to Know 556,242 (+20,321)
16(+1) Justin Bieber - Ghost 553,976 (+33,854)
17(-4) Kevin Gates - Thinking with My Dick 544,100 (-14,125)
18(+1) Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT 542,497 (+44,857)
19(-3) Dove Cameron - Boyfriend 540,268 (+14,126)
21(+1) Elton John, Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) 526,261 (+43,061)
22(-1) GAYLE - abcdefu 520,338 (+36,676)
23(+2) Jack Harlow - Nail Tech 510,046 (+39,943)
24(+2) Jessica Darrow - Surface Pressure 486,485 (+20,075)
25(+3) Becky G, KAROL G - MAMIII 486,223 (+42,300)
27(-7) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 483,785 (-903)
28(-4) Arctic Monkeys - 505 472,089 (-2,759)
29(=) Ed Sheeran - Shivers 471,069 (+31,120)
30(+11) Camila Cabello - Bam Bam 459,816 (+76,270)
31(DEBUT) BoyWithUke - IDGAF 459,166
33(-1) Yeat - Monรซy so big 449,706 (+20,247)
34(DEBUT) Coi Leray - Blick Blick 447,002
36(-6) Frank Ocean - Lost 440,951 (+2,806)
37(-6) Em Beihold - Numb Little Bug 438,368 (+8,615)
39(-2) Adele - Easy On Me 418,559 (+12,978)
40(-4) Lil Durk - Broadway Girls 417,087 (+9,048)
41(-6) AnnenMayKantereit, Giant Rooks - Tom's Diner 411,866 (-2,218)
42(-4) lil Shordie Scott - Rocking A Cardigan in Atlanta 410,744 (+12,524)
44(-4) Elley Duhรฉ - MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT 398,457 (+13,625)
45(-3) Post Malone - One Right Now 397,931 (+22,482)
46(+5) Latto - Big Energy 385,824 (+29,191)
47(+1) Dua Lipa - Levitating 383,742 (+22,979)
48(DEBUT) Nigo - Heavy 379,662
49(-6) Tyler the Creator - See You Again 379,191 (+4,688)
50(+34) Juice WRLD - Cigarettes 372,593 (+62,767)
51(+2) Russ - HANDSOMER Remix 371,056 (+18,271)
53(-9) The Rare Occasions - Notion 369,125 (+452)
54(-8) Gunna - P power 367,435 (+5,953)
55(+6) Stephanie Beatriz, Olga Merediz, Encanto Cast - The Family Madrigal 360,525 (+14,407)
56(+2) Tate McRae - she's all i wanna be 359,451 (+11,060)
57(+3) Lauren Spencer-Smith - Fingers Crossed 359,114 (+12,418)
58(-11) Labrinth - Mount Everest 358,694 (-2,467)
60(-10) Tyler the Creator - NEW MAGIC WAND 357,485 (-376)
69(-20) Labrinth, Zendaya - I'm Tired 342,824 (-16,974)
71(+3) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 341,138 (+21,180)
75(+1) Charlie Puth - Light Switch 333,594 (+15,893)
76(-21) SZA - I Hate U 333,118 (-16,201)
77(-7) Lil Durk - AHHH HA 330,987 (+1,891)
78(-16) The Neighbourhood - Softcore 330,927 (-12,859)
84(-2) Surf Curse - Freaks 318,095 (+4,813)
85(DEBUT) Charli XCX - Used To Know Me 317,891
88(-5) Ruth B. - Dandelions 314,571 (+1,896)
93(-13) Beach House - Space Song 309,099 (-5,118)
94(-6) Playboi Carti - Sky 303,096 (+3,543)
95(=) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 302,016 (+10,448)
98(+16) Lil Durk - What Happened To Virgil 298,444 (+23,055)
99(+30) Tiรซsto, Ava Max - The Motto 297,694 (+33,199)
103(-12) Tyga, Doja Cat - Freaky Deaky 295,860 (-1,399)
106(DEBUT) Stray Kids - MANIAC 295,143
108(-37) Gunna - Banking On Me 291,768 (-35,724)
110(-10) Nardo Wick - Me or Sum 290,217 (+756)
113(-20) Vundabar - Alien Blues 288,183 (-5,290)
111(-6) Diane Guerrero, Stephanie Beatriz - What Else Can I Do? 289,606 (+8,895)
112(-3) Morgan Wallen - Sand in My Boots 288,195 (+10,506)
116(+6) 4*TOWN (From Disney and Pixarโs Turning Red), Jordan Fisher, Finneas O'Connell, Josh Levi, Topher Ngo, Grayson Villanueva - Nobody Like U 285,204 (+15,358)
117(+60) ERNEST - Flower Shops 284,720 (+47,623)
118(DEBUT) ROSALรA - CANDY 284,341
121(+2) Jaymes Young - Infinity 282,454 (+12,870)
122(-11) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 280,615 (+4,562)
127(-24) Labrinth, Zendaya - All For Us 275,144 (-7,158)
136(DEBUT) Still Woozy, Remi Wolf - Pool 269,159
140(+40) Cody Johnson - 'Til You Can't 267,691 (+35,638)
144(-8) Yeat - Poppin 265,098 (+2,125)
146(-4) Imagine Dragons - Bones 263,961 (+7,202)
148(+25) Rauw Alejandro, Chencho Corleone - Desesperados 261,103 (+22,907)
150(-7) Fivio Foreign, Kanye West, Alicia Keys - City of Gods 260,382 (+4,313)
152(DEBUT) Normani - Fair 258,896
163(+13) Lil Durk - Petty Too 251,996 (+14,486)
165(-10) King Von, 21 Savage - Don't Play That 251,661 (+2,731)
166(-36) Gucci Mane - Rumors 251,384 (-12,874)
168(-48) Machine Gun Kelly - ay! 249,857 (-22,937)
179(-8) JVKE - this is what falling in love feels like 244,482 (+5,131)
183(-67) Rex Orange County - OPEN A WINDOW 242,018 (-32,708)
188(-4) Stephanie Beatriz - Waiting on a Miracle 237,905 (+7,214)
198(-17) Vacations - Young 231,154 (-876)
200(-17) Joy Again - Looking Out for You 231,023 (-509)
Total Streams for Save Your Tears: 582,631
Biggest Gains (50K+): Cigarettes, Bam Bam, Heat Waves
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Mar 19, 2022 8:31:47 GMT -5
Really surprised the Normani track is this low and Carrie Underwood not even in top 200. Carrie is hardly a surprise. Sheโs 39 and hasnโt had a hit in a long time. Sheโs a past star, like Avril, Britney, Christina, or Jennifer Lopez. |
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Post by Push The Button on Mar 19, 2022 9:32:52 GMT -5
Really surprised the Normani track is this low and Carrie Underwood not even in top 200. Carrie is hardly a surprise. Sheโs 39 and hasnโt had a hit in a long time. Sheโs a past star, like Avril, Britney, Christina, or Jennifer Lopez. She had a #1 Country single like, four months ago. |
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Post by Gary on Mar 19, 2022 9:35:32 GMT -5
Was gonns post something similar to that -- Carrie Underwood - the female pop star, never really had too many hits--- still a hugs current country star though
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Post by kimberly on Mar 19, 2022 10:01:30 GMT -5
Charli XCX making it into the Top 100 instead of ROSALIA and Normani... definitely did not expect that, not on the US charts. happy to see it though, CRASH is so good and "Used To Know Me" is definitely among my favorites.
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Post by jenglisbe on Mar 19, 2022 10:03:39 GMT -5
Was gonns post something similar to that -- Carrie Underwood - the female pop star, never really had too many hits--- still a hugs current country star though Carrie never tried to be a pop star, so I don't think this is even a general discussed to be had. She never remixed any of her songs for crossover appeal, nor has she ever actively sent songs to Top 40 radio. Maybe a few have been sent to AC/Hot AC, but that's it. To that end she's never been a "pop star" anyway. Having said that, I would have expected this new song to at least be in the 100s on Spotify. |
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Post by Darkest Hour on Mar 19, 2022 10:04:20 GMT -5
Charli XCX making it into the Top 100 instead of ROSALIA and Normani... definitely did not expect that, not on the US charts. She is on the cover of New Music Friday (US) playlist. It's not that surprising. |
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Post by Gary on Mar 19, 2022 10:08:57 GMT -5
Was gonns post something similar to that -- Carrie Underwood - the female pop star, never really had too many hits--- still a hugs current country star though Carrie never tried to be a pop star, so I don't think this is even a general discussed to be had. She never remixed any of her songs for crossover appeal, nor has she ever actively sent songs to Top 40 radio. Maybe a few have been sent to AC/Hot AC, but that's it. To that end she's never been a "pop star" anyway. Having said that, I would have expected this new song to at least be in the 100s on Spotify. The phrase from above though "Sheโs 39 and hasnโt had a hit in a long time. Sheโs a past star, like Avril, Britney, Christina, or Jennifer Lopez." obviously refers to the chart in the thread title as the discussion was attempting to compare her to other pop stars of similar age. Using the all-genre Hot 100 as a means of measuring what a "hit" is, never really works for any genre-specific artists --- not just this one. |
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Post by kimberly on Mar 19, 2022 10:35:25 GMT -5
Charli XCX making it into the Top 100 instead of ROSALIA and Normani... definitely did not expect that, not on the US charts. She is on the cover of New Music Friday (US) playlist. It's not that surprising. I don't think who's on the cover matters that muchโyou have to read the tiny caption underneath to see who it is, and Americans are not known for their particular interest in reading lol. jokes aside, even though the song is placed at #2 on the playlist, I did not expect it to end up getting more streams than Rosalia and Normani (who are at #3 and #4 on the same playlist, respectively). those two have had way more buzz and chart success recently. the last time a Charli XCX single touched the Hot 100 was in 2014. compare that to Rosalia and Normani, who both had Hot 100 hits in the last 6 months. |
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Post by kimberly on Mar 19, 2022 11:22:45 GMT -5
Something about Juice WRLD camp still releasing his unreleased songs ain't right. yeah they somehow seem to think "there's demand for it" adequately justifies releasing every half-finished song he made before he passed away in 2019. I hope they don't try to squeeze out a third posthumous album from him. the fact that they're even doing this "deluxe edition" gimmick feels weird and disrespectful. |
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Post by kindofbiased on Mar 19, 2022 12:17:55 GMT -5
Something about Juice WRLD camp still releasing his unreleased songs ain't right. yeah they somehow seem to think "there's demand for it" adequately justifies releasing every half-finished song he made before he passed away in 2019. I hope they don't try to squeeze out a third posthumous album from him. the fact that they're even doing this "deluxe edition" gimmick feels weird and disrespectful. It's such a shame that this is the norm with posthumous releases instead of actually being respectful towards the artist. Basically the same thing they did with X |
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Post by annoymous1 on Mar 19, 2022 12:22:24 GMT -5
Something about Juice WRLD camp still releasing his unreleased songs ain't right. yeah they somehow seem to think "there's demand for it" adequately justifies releasing every half-finished song he made before he passed away in 2019. I hope they don't try to squeeze out a third posthumous album from him. the fact that they're even doing this "deluxe edition" gimmick feels weird and disrespectful. I totally agree. |
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