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Post by Music Fan on Feb 6, 2023 0:41:19 GMT -5
Not ya'll complaining that Beyonce, with 32 Grammys, is not "taken seriously."
Beyonce should have won this award YEARS AGO. This was NOT her best project, not was it the best album of the nominees. An award should not be a "consolation" prize for past fuck ups by the Recording Academy.
With that said, Harry shouldn't have won either. There were better albums on that list (Beyonce's included)... but still think Brandi, Adele, and Mary J Blige's were the best.
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Post by cjay on Feb 6, 2023 0:46:04 GMT -5
Ugh! I totally respect a musician that can write and produce their own music with minimal involvement from other writers. But no one is less of a fucking musician for having collaboratorsβeven if itβs 23 of them. These purist drive me honkers.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Feb 6, 2023 0:55:52 GMT -5
Not ya'll complaining that Beyonce, with 32 Grammys, is not "taken seriously." Beyonce should have won this award YEARS AGO. This was NOT her best project, not was it the best album of the nominees. An award should not be a "consolation" prize for past f**k ups by the Recording Academy. With that said, Harry shouldn't have won either. There were better albums on that list (Beyonce's included)... but still think Brandi, Adele, and Mary J Blige's were the best. 32 Grammys and only one is a general field Grammy. I think that says a lot about how βseriouslyβ sheβs taken. Also, it doesnβt matter what you think it should or should not be. Fact of the matter is that the recording academy has given βmake up, consolationβ AOTY wins for prior fuck ups. Some say Beckβs was a makeup win for Odelay.
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Post by Joe1240 on Feb 6, 2023 0:58:52 GMT -5
What a disappointing award show as the Grammys continue to play it safe again with that Harry Styles AOTY win. Same as what happened a few years back when Melodrama lost to Bruno Mars. A Best New Artist winner that nobody has ever heard of yet again, signs of Shelby Lynne & Esperanza Spalding again. Taylor Swift only got one award for her best music video and Christina Aguilera got snubbed for Best Latin Pop Album in the pre-telecast awards.
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Post by cjay on Feb 6, 2023 1:07:09 GMT -5
BeyoncΓ© is taken very serious in R&B and Hip Hop genres. When it comes to the general field, not so much. The fact that all these voters or past voters continue to hold up single songwriters or small group of songwriters as the example for a respectable artist is proof. Again, I say this isnβt just a BeyoncΓ© issue. Itβs a R&B and Hip Hop genre issue. A country artist, rock artist, jazz artist can win in the general field because they more often than not fit the criteria for a respectable artistry.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Feb 6, 2023 1:11:32 GMT -5
I honestly think Beyoncé would win if she did an album with just her and one producer. People are really hung up on people having a smaller team of writers. I don't care either way, but I think she could snap one if she kept it to her and one or two writers. I too think this is the issue. But then this is larger than Beyoncé. This is what holds back R&B and hip hop albums from winning. All the sampling and multiple producers⦠Basically this some bulls**t! Totally and quite frankly it's borderline racist. Nonsensical, it makes literally no sense that music is somehow 'better' because it was achieved by or with less.
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Post by Music Fan on Feb 6, 2023 1:19:29 GMT -5
Not ya'll complaining that Beyonce, with 32 Grammys, is not "taken seriously." Beyonce should have won this award YEARS AGO. This was NOT her best project, not was it the best album of the nominees. An award should not be a "consolation" prize for past f**k ups by the Recording Academy. With that said, Harry shouldn't have won either. There were better albums on that list (Beyonce's included)... but still think Brandi, Adele, and Mary J Blige's were the best. 32 Grammys and only one is a general field Grammy. I think that says a lot about how βseriouslyβ sheβs taken. Also, it doesnβt matter what you think it should or should not be. Fact of the matter is that the recording academy has given βmake up, consolationβ AOTY wins for prior f**k ups. Some say Beckβs was a makeup win for Odelay. Right, it doesn't really matter what any of us think since we don't control shit at the Grammys. So, bye with that snarky comment. But, as others have mentioned throughout, it's not a "Beyonce" issue. Interestingly, the ONE a AOTY I think Beyonce should have won was the one she lost to Beck. But this one wasn't it.
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Post by 14887fan on Feb 6, 2023 1:19:45 GMT -5
Lol, kinda thought I was the only one who had this in mind, but yeah, she probably just expected it. She posted her celebratory message a little bit before they got to the Big 4 categories.
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Post by wyckyd on Feb 6, 2023 2:03:50 GMT -5
Fine Line aka his best album should've won a grammy. this. Itβs a shame they gave whatβs considered the showβs βhighest honourβ to his worst album, but Iβve learned long ago to stop taking award shows like this seriously, so congrats to him ig. Itβs especially a shame Silk Sonic chose not to submit their album, they couldβve prevented this!
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Post by Philippe on Feb 6, 2023 2:10:46 GMT -5
I have already been wondering whether all the controversies surrounding Beyonce at each release (stealing credits, etc.) play against her at the end of the day. Thereβs a limit to how the internet hype around her can translate into the real world.
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Post by kimberly on Feb 6, 2023 2:19:34 GMT -5
God Iβm so sick of the shots of BeyoncΓ© applauding so graciously as she yet again loses AOTY. This one should have been so straightforward. yup. What does BeyoncΓ© have to do to win AOTY? This is a travesty. be white. artists' Grammy wins vs. AOTY wins BeyoncΓ© - 32 // 0.Alison Krauss - 27 // 2. Aretha Franklin - 18 // 0.
Adele - 16 // 2. Taylor Swift - 12 // 3.
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Post by ificanthaveyou on Feb 6, 2023 2:26:47 GMT -5
God Iβm so sick of the shots of BeyoncΓ© applauding so graciously as she yet again loses AOTY. This one should have been so straightforward. yup.Β What does BeyoncΓ© have to do to win AOTY? This is a travesty. be white. The fucking Beck one makes me sick to my stomach. BeyoncΓ© needs to stop attending and the Grammys will find a way to help her win it.
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Post by Waveyβ¨οΈ on Feb 6, 2023 2:28:16 GMT -5
Look...I get it but , imo, I didn't like how Variety was asking Harry did he think Bey was gonna win AOTY. Like, don't shxt on his moment by asking that. He looked so confused trying to answer that.
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WHY IN THE FUCKING FUCK DO THEY HAVE TREVER NOAH HOSTING THIS?! He seemed totally coked out tonight. Best Remixed Recording - Purple Disco Machine - About Damn Time Finally PDM gets recognized like this! He has been delivering some outstanding tracks of his own in addition to remixes. This was a really good mix. I heard it in a lot of Twitch DJs' sets. Best Song Written for Visual Media - βWe Donβt Talk About Brunoβ I can't believe they picked that. I still never got the appeal of it. What in the fresh HELL is this lmao. That Party City wig in the shade of menarche red is a choice. Screaming at the closed captions just being [SINGING IN NON-ENGLISH] It's so racist. They could have taken the time to get the lyrics ahead of time. But they didn't. That "Gary" introduction was so cringe lol I still don't understand why he calls him Gary. Wtf even was that? Maybe he knew him as Gary? Remember when Britney thought Kesha was Keisha? The Grammy's have always been s**t when it comes to EDM/Dance and remix categories though so it is what it is. They had gotten it right for a while in the beginning, and then they started nominating artists/songs that even those who are in the know within that music world didn't even know. The nominees were seriously WTF for a while. Then they began giving it to non-Dance artists because it seemed like it was easier to just do it that way. Then it got better again. And now it's WTF again. BEST PERFORMANCE OF THE NIGHT Ending with DJ Khaled bragging about doing an eight minute song Wow DJ Khaled is bitter because EVERYONE knows he doesn't eat kitty.
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Post by Night Senses on Feb 6, 2023 4:21:44 GMT -5
Congrats, Harry! Not letting anyone shit on my happiness for him. And I hope he enjoys his moment.
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Post by Future Captain on Feb 6, 2023 4:27:07 GMT -5
I woke up from a nap to see who won AOTY and... Harry's House??? I genuinely think that the only worse choice for the AOTY winner is Coldplay. I would be perfectly fine with As It Was dominating the song categories because it is the year's biggest hit and genuinely is a great song, but it winning AOTY over Renaissance and Un Verano Sin Ti, both of which represent something greater than just the albums itself on top of just being better albums overall compared to Harry's House, or hell, even 30 which is yet another great album from Grammy darling Adele?
ah well. what do I expect from the Grammys. The voters, which despite the reforms of the past years, which were still probably predominantly white and on the older side saw a commercially successful, critically pretty decently received album full of 80s pastiches by a seemingly well liked artist and voted accordingly.
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Post by leonagwen on Feb 6, 2023 4:56:00 GMT -5
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Post by Dammn Baby on Feb 6, 2023 5:52:26 GMT -5
Harry's album will be relegated to the dustbin of history, like many middle-of-the-road AOTY winners, so we can all take cold comfort in that.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Feb 6, 2023 6:28:13 GMT -5
Album of the Year is just another category and it's one that doesn't make much sense, if you really think about it.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 6, 2023 7:07:46 GMT -5
Wow these winners were all over the place. Make it make sense lol. "As it Was" not winning anything while Harry's album swept its categories is not something I saw coming. The reverse maybe. Beyonce had 3 different songs from her album win tonight, yet couldn't win AOTY. She just shouldn't attend anymore. Hell, why even submit her work anymore? Or just submit to Album and nothing else to force their hand? Anyway it's clear the body as a whole does not want to be pressured to give her AOTY, and I'm not sure why Beyonce keeps putting herself through it. The first since Whitney in 1994 - so almost 30 years ago! That's actually a sad statistics. Like wtf. It should also be noted that the first single the Grammys defined as "R&B" or "hip-hop" to win ROTY was "This is America" a few years ago. The only other one to win was "Leave the Door Open" last year. That of course feeds into the lack of Black women winners and likely why none won in the 2000s as Envoirment noted (even Whitney winning 30 years ago was for a song in the Pop categories, as was Lizzo's winner this year).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 6, 2023 7:41:36 GMT -5
Wtf happenned with SOTY and AOTY? So weird.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 6, 2023 8:19:03 GMT -5
What a disappointing award show as the Grammys continue to play it safe again with that Harry Styles AOTY win. Same as what happened a few years back when Melodrama lost to Bruno Mars. A Best New Artist winner that nobody has ever heard of yet again, signs of Shelby Lynne & Esperanza Spalding again. Taylor Swift only got one award for her best music video and Christina Aguilera got snubbed for Best Latin Pop Album in the pre-telecast awards. To be fair, there was no possibility of a Best New Artist this year that everyone would have known.
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Post by upsidedown on Feb 6, 2023 9:32:58 GMT -5
Well I'll clearly disagree with a large majority here but I have to say that the incessant need for everyone at that show last night to make this the "Beyonce Awards" was incredibly exhausting. She ain't Jesus, we don't need to be mentioning her every 5 damn seconds of the show.
I can't at people saying that Beyonce is "overlooked" or "ignored" by the GRAMMYs while winning 32 and getting the most of all time. Maybe what that says is that most of those were bought or favored and maybe - just maybe - she doesn't actually deserve the ones she's lost because... others were better and her material just wasn't as good? People really let the internet hype on this woman seep into their brain or something, it's too much. People have really got this mentality that she is entitled to every award she's nominated for every time she releases a project, it's getting insane at this point.
Also she can really keep the fake humbleness that is even worse than Taylor Swift's. Her getting up when James Corden hadn't even read her name yet while trying to act surprised... chile...
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Post by upsidedown on Feb 6, 2023 9:35:56 GMT -5
People need to stop doing this to BeyoncΓ© before the announcement of AOTYβ¦.is a curse at this point. This is also getting annoying IMO. People should be allowed to react to their wins and not have to make the award THEY won about Beyonce. Same thing happened with Adele. I have no doubt Lizzo and Adele are fans of hers, but every damn time someone wins over her, it's like they also feel compelled to have to shout her out or something as if she deserved the award over them.
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Post by wjr15 on Feb 6, 2023 9:58:55 GMT -5
Harry Styles was heckled during his acceptance speech by Beyonce fans at the Grammys:
Regardless of who someone thinks shouldβve won AOTY, itβs inappropriate and rude af to take away that moment from the artist who won. Harry didnβt choose to win, the Academy chose him. And it is extremely toxic how Beyonce fans at the Grammys heckled him during his acceptance speech.
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Post by Taylor. on Feb 6, 2023 10:00:14 GMT -5
Knowing the Academy they'll give it to Harry if not Adele, but I hope it's Beyonce's year (finally). Well.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 6, 2023 10:09:16 GMT -5
Also she can really keep the fake humbleness that is even worse than Taylor Swift's. Her getting up when James Corden hadn't even read her name yet while trying to act surprised... chile... What else could the line βHistory has just been madeβ have meant? π€π€π€
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Post by upsidedown on Feb 6, 2023 10:12:19 GMT -5
Happy for Adele too. Easy on Me deserved big wins, so glad it at least got Best Pop Solo.
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Post by raylatch98 on Feb 6, 2023 10:24:43 GMT -5
Well I'll clearly disagree with a large majority here but I have to say that the incessant need for everyone at that show last night to make this the "Beyonce Awards" was incredibly exhausting. She ain't Jesus, we don't need to be mentioning her every 5 damn seconds of the show. I can't at people saying that Beyonce is "overlooked" or "ignored" by the GRAMMYs while winning 32 and getting the most of all time. Maybe what that says is that most of those were bought or favored and maybe - just maybe - she doesn't actually deserve the ones she's lost because... others were better and her material just wasn't as good? People really let the internet hype on this woman seep into their brain or something, it's too much. People have really got this mentality that she is entitled to every award she's nominated for every time she releases a project, it's getting insane at this point. Also she can really keep the fake humbleness that is even worse than Taylor Swift's. Her getting up when James Corden hadn't even read her name yet while trying to act surprised... chile... Okay this take I disagree with and it is kind of annoying. I get why the show and people made it the Beyonce Awards since she broke the record last night. Even though she didn't win every award she was nominated for their was a feeling in the air it was her night so to speak. Also saying her Grammy wins were bought really diminishes her wins, and is always an annoying sentiment I see in regards to award shows. If you don't like her fine, but she earned those wins and the music industry/society has a natural love and respect for her, hence her being a main star last night without even performing. Lastly the fake humbleness take is bullshit, when James Corden said that history has been made in a category she has been nominated for it's not hard to put two and two together that she won and broke the record.
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Post by cjay on Feb 6, 2023 10:28:45 GMT -5
The heckling was definitely uncalled for. Harry was not my top 3 picks for AOTY. But he should be allowed to have his moment and enjoy it.
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