Billboard Hot 100: 09/02/2023

[gs]

Aug 20, 2023 22:49:31 GMT -5 Gary said:

I get around there too --- I have a little over 31,000 with a little over 5100 songs in the top 10

Interesting we all have different numbers 

I see 30,810 total unique songs and 5129 top 10s.

[Darkest Hour]

Paint The Town Red is #1 on US Spotify with 1,297,540 streams. First solo female rapper song to get US Spotify #1.

[jayhawk1117]

That is such a surprising stat. Nicki or Cardi never did it? Or Doja herself? Congrats to her and her “mediocre pop” 😝

[Gary]

Aug 20, 2023 23:31:44 GMT -5 gs said:

Aug 20, 2023 22:49:31 GMT -5 Gary said:

I get around there too --- I have a little over 31,000 with a little over 5100 songs in the top 10

Interesting we all have different numbers 

I see 30,810 total unique songs and 5129 top 10s.

Mine were rounded

My current top 10 count is 5126
Some things that could make an actual count difficult so that not everyone has the same number

• Double A singles
• Songs that started out as a single title and became double A song - mid chart run
• 2 song singles that flipped order during the middle of the chart run
• songs that change credit, mid chart run
• Recharted songs that later get released as a remix under the same title

[king_billboard_100]

Aug 21, 2023 3:49:08 GMT -5 Darkest Hour said:

Paint The Town Red is #1 on US Spotify with 1,297,540 streams. First solo female rapper song to get US Spotify #1.

Cardi B/ Nicki Minaj no?

[Darkest Hour]

Aug 21, 2023 8:58:15 GMT -5 king_billboard_100 said:

Aug 21, 2023 3:49:08 GMT -5 Darkest Hour said:

Paint The Town Red is #1 on US Spotify with 1,297,540 streams. First solo female rapper song to get US Spotify #1.

Cardi B/ Nicki Minaj no?

(Not four same posts...)

[tfa20]

Aug 21, 2023 8:58:15 GMT -5 king_billboard_100 said:

Aug 21, 2023 3:49:08 GMT -5 Darkest Hour said:

Paint The Town Red is #1 on US Spotify with 1,297,540 streams. First solo female rapper song to get US Spotify #1.

Cardi B/ Nicki Minaj no?

Tf? Round 3?

Also. Nope.

Nicki has never topped US Spotify while Cardi has only topped it once (with Megan Thee Stallion on WAP).

[tfa20]

And of the 5000+ Hot 100 top-ten hits, how many have debuted in the region?

[gs]

Aug 21, 2023 9:57:03 GMT -5 tfa20 said:

And of the 5000+ Hot 100 top-ten hits, how many have debuted in the region?

435

[Gary]

I get 427

Not updated yet - but I have a thread for that


pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/153987/songs-debut-top-hot-100?page=1

[gs]

Aug 21, 2023 10:18:03 GMT -5 Gary said:

I get 427

Not updated yet - but I have a thread for that


pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/153987/songs-debut-top-hot-100?page=1

My one counts the first ever chart. Not sure why it wouldn't be 10 off though.

[Gary]

Aug 21, 2023 10:25:44 GMT -5 gs said:

Aug 21, 2023 10:18:03 GMT -5 Gary said:

I get 427

Not updated yet - but I have a thread for that


pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/153987/songs-debut-top-hot-100?page=1

My one counts the first ever chart. Not sure why it wouldn't be 10 off though.

Here it is by year


 Count of Year
1968 1
1969 1
1970 1
1995 11
1996 11
1997 16
1998 18
1999 1
2001 1
2002 0
2003 3
2004 4
2005 3
2006 1
2007 7
2008 15
2009 11
2010 15
2011 17
2012 12
2013 10
2014 4
2015 9
2016 13
2017 14
2018 40
2019 21
2020 44
2021 48
2022 58
2023 17
Grand Total 427

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2023 » / « 08 » / « 21 »

1(+1) Luke Combs - Fast Car 99.89(+0.48)

2(-1) Rema & Selena Gomez - Calm Down 99.75(-0.34)

3(=) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer 81.81(+0.33)
4(=) SZA - Snooze 70.15(+0.49)
5(=) Morgan Wallen - Last Night 65.75(-1.19)
6(=) Miley Cyrus - Flowers 64.76(-0.38)
7(+1) Olivia Rodrigo - vampire 62.12(+0.60)
8(-1) Jelly Roll - Need A Favor 61.18(-0.70)
9(=) Dua Lipa - Dance The Night 60.52(+0.77)
10(=) Lil Durk - All My Life (feat. J. Cole) 56.96(+0.32)

14(+1) Nicki Minaj & Ice Spice - Barbie World (with Aqua) [From Barbie The Album] 43.93(+1.62)

33(=) Doechii - What It Is 27.71(+0.72)

45(+7) Doja Cat - Paint The Town Red 22.09(+1.17)

-(-) Olivia Rodrigo - bad idea right? 7.25(+0.80)

-(-) Feid & Young Miko - Classy 101 2.67(+1.29) +

-(-) Jay Rock F/anderson.paak/latto - Too Fast (Pull Over) 1.21(+0.81) +

[After Minutes]

Paint The Town Red and Fukumean set a precedent for hit rap songs not debuting in the top 10 and just blowing up organically

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Aug 21, 2023 12:02:19 GMT -5 After Minutes said:

Paint The Town Red and Fukumean set a precedent for hit rap songs not debuting in the top 10 and just blowing up organically

Isn't that...most rap hits in a given year lmao. I feel like we've gotten accustomed to that since hip-hop really blew up circa 2018 but like that's not really a precedent. Also both songs still debuted within the Top 20 so it's not like they were unknown upon release.

[musiclife]

Lol Doja ❤️

[gs]

Aug 21, 2023 10:33:43 GMT -5 Gary said:

Aug 21, 2023 10:25:44 GMT -5 gs said:

My one counts the first ever chart. Not sure why it wouldn't be 10 off though.

Here it is by year


 Count of Year
1968 1
1969 1
1970 1
1995 11
1996 11
1997 16
1998 18
1999 1
2001 1
2002 0
2003 3
2004 4
2005 3
2006 1
2007 7
2008 15
2009 11
2010 15
2011 17
2012 12
2013 10
2014 4
2015 9
2016 13
2017 14
2018 40
2019 21
2020 44
2021 48
2022 58
2023 17
Grand Total 427

You have a mistake in 2004. Only two, not four - your thread also shows that
So 435 if you include the first ever chart, otherwise 425 

[tfa20]

And of the 420+ Hot 100 top-ten debuts, how many debuted in the top 5?

[Gary]

Aug 21, 2023 12:32:23 GMT -5 gs said:

Aug 21, 2023 10:33:43 GMT -5 Gary said:

Here it is by year


 Count of Year
1968 1
1969 1
1970 1
1995 11
1996 11
1997 16
1998 18
1999 1
2001 1
2002 0
2003 3
2004 4
2005 3
2006 1
2007 7
2008 15
2009 11
2010 15
2011 17
2012 12
2013 10
2014 4
2015 9
2016 13
2017 14
2018 40
2019 21
2020 44
2021 48
2022 58
2023 17
Grand Total 427

You have a mistake in 2004. Only two, not four - your thread also shows that
So 435 if you include the first ever chart, otherwise 425 

OK I agree - 425, Now with the new chart - it really is 427

Another reason why databases can give slightly different answers

The song title might not change from week to week but if the punctuation changes from week to week and you don't notice it, that could screw things up


None of those 8-4-58 songs were debuts as they all charted elsewhere the week before

[Gary]

Here is the top 5 version

Row Labels Count of Year
1995 7
1996 3
1997 8
1998 10
1999 1
2000 0
2001 0
2002 0
2003 3
2004 2
2005 2
2006 1
2007 2
2008 7
2009 4
2010 8
2011 5
2012 5
2013 4
2014 2
2015 5
2016 4
2017 10
2018 16
2019 13
2020 26
2021 27
2022 27
2023 11
Grand Total 213

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

[neel]

Aug 21, 2023 10:33:43 GMT -5 Gary said:

Aug 21, 2023 10:25:44 GMT -5 gs said:

My one counts the first ever chart. Not sure why it wouldn't be 10 off though.

Here it is by year


 Count of Year
1968 1
1969 1
1970 1
1995 11
1996 11
1997 16
1998 18
1999 1
2001 1
2002 0
2003 3
2004 4
2005 3
2006 1
2007 7
2008 15
2009 11
2010 15
2011 17
2012 12
2013 10
2014 4
2015 9
2016 13
2017 14
2018 40
2019 21
2020 44
2021 48
2022 58
2023 17
Grand Total 427

Interested how 1 song debuted in Top 10 in 2006, considering that was the peak beginning of digital downloads and the other shit that charted just for that reason.

[jdanton2]

Aug 21, 2023 16:31:03 GMT -5 neel said:

Aug 21, 2023 10:33:43 GMT -5 Gary said:

Here it is by year


 Count of Year
1968 1
1969 1
1970 1
1995 11
1996 11
1997 16
1998 18
1999 1
2001 1
2002 0
2003 3
2004 4
2005 3
2006 1
2007 7
2008 15
2009 11
2010 15
2011 17
2012 12
2013 10
2014 4
2015 9
2016 13
2017 14
2018 40
2019 21
2020 44
2021 48
2022 58
2023 17
Grand Total 427

Interested how 1 song debuted in Top 10 in 2006, considering that was the peak beginning of digital downloads and the other shit that charted just for that reason.

interesting that the 68,69 and 70 ones were The Beatles.despite their popularity in the years before none of those songs were able to do it.

[badrobot]

Part of why top ten debuts were rare for a long time is that there wasn’t this concept of a standardized national release day for quite a long time. Stuff just went on sale when the shipments arrived, whatever day that happened to be. So the first “full” week for a single was often its 2nd or even 3rd week.

[wavey.]

[thegreatdivine]

[neogale]

El cadejo, my god :O

[lurker2]

Aug 21, 2023 19:47:33 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Not gonna lie, this goes pretty hard. As the resident Drake expert, would I be right in saying this is a sign it's coming this/next week? I want to say the CLB and Her Loss covers came not long before release.

[neel]

Aug 21, 2023 20:24:22 GMT -5 lurker2 said:

Aug 21, 2023 19:47:33 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Not gonna lie, this goes pretty hard. As the resident Drake expert, would I be right in saying this is a sign it's coming this/next week? I want to say the CLB and Her Loss covers came not long before release.

It’s definitely dropping on Friday or on September 1st.

[jenglisbe]

Aug 21, 2023 17:26:26 GMT -5 badrobot said:

Part of why top ten debuts were rare for a long time is that there wasn’t this concept of a standardized national release day for quite a long time. Stuff just went on sale when the shipments arrived, whatever day that happened to be. So the first “full” week for a single was often its 2nd or even 3rd week.

Well and even when there became an official release day, for the first half of the 1990s songs were eligible for the Hot 100 the week prior to the release date which meant songs debuted off airplay only so they couldn't really debut top 10.