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Post by Groovy on Dec 29, 2023 8:04:41 GMT -5
What does super recurrent mean? Now that it hit 52 weeks, Snooze would need to fall below the top 25 to go recurrent and exit the charts. |
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Post by Resident_Evil on Dec 29, 2023 8:05:51 GMT -5
This Brenda thing is getting annoying now. What has she to gain from her borderline-pedophilic song going number 1? She has already broken whatever records she needed to break and now she needs to go sit in the corner and silently drink her eggnog.
Mariah needs to come up with a better strategy next year, I don't feel she put in much effort this year. It wont be too long before billboard decides to change the rules again.
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Post by JamaicaFunkΒ² on Dec 29, 2023 8:24:02 GMT -5
Playlisting matters. Itβs evident when you compare the two across other platforms how well Brenda does by being first on classic playlists. Who decides which song goes first anyway?
Mariah did a quite successful tour this year so that seemed to be the focus. And when she lost out on number one, she started selling signed copies of the single at the shows. So her team must be well aware of what is happening but letβs see what they do about it. They seem to focus on other platforms to make up the difference in streams, but that clearly isnβt enough.
At this point, Spotify can make RATCT the biggest hit of all time in the next few years if they choose to.
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Post by fridayteenage on Dec 29, 2023 8:27:03 GMT -5
This Brenda thing is getting annoying now. What has she to gain from her borderline-pedophilic song going number 1? She has already broken whatever records she needed to break and now she needs to go sit in the corner and silently drink her eggnog. Mariah needs to come up with a better strategy next year, I don't feel she put in much effort this year. It wont be too long before billboard decides to change the rules again. It's not that serious to be melting down over a 79 year old having a hit song and calling it an ode to child predators. Mariah has about a billion weeks topping the chart in her lifetime. |
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Post by joshtheking on Dec 29, 2023 8:29:01 GMT -5
This Brenda thing is getting annoying now. What has she to gain from her borderline-pedophilic song going number 1? She has already broken whatever records she needed to break and now she needs to go sit in the corner and silently drink her eggnog. Mariah needs to come up with a better strategy next year, I don't feel she put in much effort this year. It wont be too long before billboard decides to change the rules again. from her WHAT song??? |
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Post by οΌ³ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½ο½π€ο½ο½ on Dec 29, 2023 8:43:22 GMT -5
you can really read everything in these Hot 100 threads...
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Post by HolidayGuy on Dec 29, 2023 8:45:40 GMT -5
Indeed, firdayteenage. I guess some really don't like change- at least when it comes to the Hot 100 being shaken up slightly at this time of year. Gawd forbid.
And then there were three on U.S. Spotify:
109 (-74)- Rockin'Around the Christmas Tree, 354,171
191 (-114)- Last Christmas, 295,155
198 (-126)- All I Want For Christmas is You, 292,621
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Dec 29, 2023 9:00:17 GMT -5
2024 is 30th Anniversary of 'Merry Christmas.' Expect huge promo so AIWFCIY will nab more weeks at #1.
The real goal should be to issue enough vinyl variations to finally push MC to #1 on B200.
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Post by chartfreak on Dec 29, 2023 9:16:34 GMT -5
The hypocrisy in these threads!
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Post by #LisaRinna on Dec 29, 2023 9:38:33 GMT -5
This Brenda thing is getting annoying now. What has she to gain from her borderline-pedophilic song going number 1? She has already broken whatever records she needed to break and now she needs to go sit in the corner and silently drink her eggnog. Mariah needs to come up with a better strategy next year, I don't feel she put in much effort this year. It wont be too long before billboard decides to change the rules again. from her WHAT song??? Okay? That took me out  |
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Post by sheardbeard on Dec 29, 2023 9:50:03 GMT -5
βRockin' around the Christmas tree
At the Christmas party hop
Mistletoe hung where you can see
Every couple tries to stop
Rockin' around the Christmas tree
Let the Christmas spirit ring
Later we'll have some pumpkin pie
And we'll do some caroling
You will get a sentimental feeling when you hear
Voices singing, let's be jolly
Deck the halls with boughs of holly
Rockin' around the Christmas tree
Have a happy holiday
Everyone dancin' merrily
In the new old-fashioned way
Oh, you will get a sentimental feeling when you hear
Voices singing, let's be jolly
Deck the halls with boughs of holly
Rockin' around the Christmas tree
Have a happy holiday
Everyone dancin' merrily
In the new old-fashioned wayβ
Iβm sorryβ¦ Iβm finding it extremely difficult to find the βborderline-pedophiliaβ here.
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Post by David on Dec 29, 2023 10:03:49 GMT -5
Playlisting matters. Itβs evident when you compare the two across other platforms how well Brenda does by being first on classic playlists. Who decides which song goes first anyway? Mariah did a quite successful tour this year so that seemed to be the focus. And when she lost out on number one, she started selling signed copies of the single at the shows. So her team must be well aware of what is happening but letβs see what they do about it. They seem to focus on other platforms to make up the difference in streams, but that clearly isnβt enough. At this point, Spotify can make RATCT the biggest hit of all time in the next few years if they choose to. A very easy fix for next year is making sure the single is discounted on iTunes early on. It took too long for them to do it, but really, the Spotify thing puts her at a huge disadvantage. Iβm not sure what she should do. |
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Post by Push The Button on Dec 29, 2023 10:19:16 GMT -5
Brendaβs streams have been exploding every year. Mariah barely squeaked by last season. There is nothing to indicate that her lead will not continue to grow.
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Post by chartfreak on Dec 29, 2023 10:36:04 GMT -5
Why are people acting like Mariah wasn't #1 for the past 69 Christmas's!?
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Post by jenglisbe on Dec 29, 2023 10:41:39 GMT -5
Separate from any one artist/song specifically, I don't understand why there isn't a 'Modern Christmas Classics' playlist on Spotify for songs from 1980-2020. 'Christmas Classics' is huge and really helps the older songs on the Hot 100. Having a playlist for the next 40 years is just logical and I think would be popular, and then there would be a playlist with songs like "Last Christmas," "Santa Tell Me," Underneath the Tree," and yes "AIWFCIY," that doesn't include the older songs. It could also potentially shake some things up on the Hot 100 (might help Jonas Brothers go top 40, Ariana and Kelly go top 10, would help "Last Christmas" get top 3).
Re: "RATCT" specifically, it has been growing each season the past few years at a bigger rate than "AIWFCIY," so I don't know why that would suddenly change next year other than it will be the 30th anniversary for "AIWFCIY" so that will likely bring attention and promotion. But really, as long as 'Christmas Classics' is so huge I more so see "RATCT" pulling away even more, and could see "Jingle Bell Rock" getting to #2 within a few years.
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Post by avamaxstan on Dec 29, 2023 11:11:27 GMT -5
That unhinged rant calling Brenda pedophilic Who woulda thought an elderly lady going #1 with a song from the Eisenhower era would ruffle so many feathers⦠|
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Post by badrobot on Dec 29, 2023 11:16:21 GMT -5
I get the impression there was generally a "let's give Brenda a turn" vibe this year, and Mariah was not nearly as cutthroat as some of these fans, and was very gracious about it (some of these "fans" could learn a thing or 2 from Mariah's very kind congratulations to Brenda when she hit #1). But I could see Mariah next year saying, "ok, I'm gonna reclaim this for good" and being a lot more aggressive about finding ways to keep the song on top. I also doubt Brenda will repeat the effort she put in this year, there's really no incentive for her to do so now that she's had her moment on top.
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Post by jasper0102 on Dec 29, 2023 11:23:39 GMT -5
This Brenda thing is getting annoying now. What has she to gain from her borderline-pedophilic song going number 1? She has already broken whatever records she needed to break and now she needs to go sit in the corner and silently drink her eggnog. How bad of a Mariah stan do you need to be to say this shit with a straight face my god... |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 29, 2023 11:55:25 GMT -5
This Brenda thing is getting annoying now. What has she to gain from her borderline-pedophilic song going number 1? She has already broken whatever records she needed to break and now she needs to go sit in the corner and silently drink her eggnog. Mariah needs to come up with a better strategy next year, I don't feel she put in much effort this year. It wont be too long before billboard decides to change the rules again. The brain power is must take to make a thought like this and think it's logical I can't |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 29, 2023 11:57:31 GMT -5
Separate from any one artist/song specifically, I don't understand why there isn't a 'Modern Christmas Classics' playlist on Spotify for songs from 1980-2020. 'Christmas Classics' is huge and really helps the older songs on the Hot 100. Having a playlist for the next 40 years is just logical, and then there would be a playlist with songs like "Last Christmas," "Santa Tell Me," Underneath the Tree," and yes "AIWFCIY," that doesn't include the older songs. I think it would do well, too, and shake some things up on the Hot 100 (would help Jonas Brothers go top 40, Ariana and Kelly go top 10, would help "Last Christmas" get top 3). You could make your own playlist of modern songs that you want to listen to. |
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Post by Gary on Dec 29, 2023 12:05:14 GMT -5
Hot 100 - Flash back top 3
January 4,2020
1 1 1 37 All I Want For Christmas Is You, Mariah Carey 1
2 2 3 32 Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree, Brenda Lee 2
3 9 15 30 Jingle Bell Rock, Bobby Helms 3
January 2, 2021
1 2 1 43 All I Want For Christmas Is You, Mariah Carey 1
2 3 3 38 Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree, Brenda Lee 2
3 4 5 35 Jingle Bell Rock, Bobby Helms 3
January 1, 2022
1 1 - 50 All I Want For Christmas Is You, Mariah Carey 1
2 2 - 44 Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree, Brenda Lee 2
3 4 - 41 Jingle Bell Rock, Bobby Helms 3
December 31, 2022
1 1 - 57 All I Want For Christmas Is You, Mariah Carey 1
2 2 - 51 Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree, Brenda Lee 2
3 4 - 48 Jingle Bell Rock, Bobby Helms 3
December 30, 2023
1 1 - 64 All I Want For Christmas Is You, Mariah Carey 1
2 2 - 57 Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree, Brenda Lee 1
3 3 - 55 Jingle Bell Rock, Bobby Helms 3
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Dec 29, 2023 12:42:00 GMT -5
US Spotify - 12/28/23
1(=) Jack Harlow - Lovin On Me 1,470,478 (+60,722)
2(=) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 1,212,400 (+52,287)
3(=) Zach Bryan, Kacey Musgraves - I Remember Everything 1,146,849 (+22,041)
4(=) Tate McRae - greedy 1,034,854 (+28,669)
5(=) Mitski - My Love Mine All Mine 1,009,970 (+12,041)
6(=) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer 968,853 (+17,783)
7(=) Nicki Minaj - FTCU 895,196 (+27,095)
8(=) Doja Cat - Agora Hills 851,086 (+15,919)
9(=) JID, 21 Savage, Baby Tate - Surround Sound 813,706 (+579)
10(=) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 797,752 (-7,949)
Other:
11(+1) SZA - Snooze 780,744 (+9,141)
12(-1) Drake, Yeat - IDGAF 770,189 (-13,850)
13(+2) Doja Cat - Paint the Town Red 749,163 (+23,085)
14(-1) Gunna - fukumean 748,776 (+2,399)
15(-1) Morgan Wallen - Last Night 729,820 (-4,022)
16(=) Lil Tecca - 500lbs 710,134 (-5,643)
17(=) Olivia Rodrigo - vampire 708,719 (+7,074)
18(+1) Xavi - La Diabla 692,347 (+13,899) *NEW PEAK*
19(-1) Drake, J. Cole - First Person Shooter 688,687 (-3,482)
20(=) Taylor Swift - Is It Over Now? 661,985 (+4,218)
21(=) Travis Scott - I KNOW ? 654,623 (+106)
22(=) SZA - Kill Bill 654,264 (+5,016)
24(=) Xavi - La Victima 633,607 (+28,361)
26(=) Nicki Minaj, Lil Uzi Vert - Everybody 591,285 (+4,854)
27(=) Drake, Sexyy Red, SZA - Rich Baby Daddy 585,263 (+339)
28(+1) Tate McRae - exes 578,812 (+10,829)
29(-1) Fuerza Regida, Marshmello - HARLEY QUINN 575,103 (+730)
30(=) Frank Ocean - Pink + White 540,219 (-2,377)
32(+1) Tyla - Water 534,901 (+5,325)
33(+1) Billie Eilish - What Was I Made For? 524,441 (-4,538)
34(+2) Bad Bunny - MONACO 520,468 (-1,174)
35(-3) Juice WRLD, Eminem, benny blanco - Lace It 517,676 (-18,348)
36(+1) TV Girl - Lovers Rock 511,100 (-9,540)
37(+11) Peso Pluma, Anitta - BELLAKEO 509,741 (+23,149) *NEW PEAK*
38(=) Kenya Grace - Strangers 509,666 (-5,851)
41(=) Morgan Wallen - Thinkin' Bout Me 506,921 (+3,432)
41(-2) TV Girl - Not Allowed 504,639 (-10,693)
42(=) The Weeknd, JENNIE, Lily-Rose Depp - One of the Girls 503,964 (+934)
43(+4) Teddy Swims - Lose Control 503,005 (+16,118) *NEW PEAK*
45(-1) Calle 24, Chino Pacas, Fuerza Regida - Que Onda 496,289 (+601)
46(-6) Olivia Rodrigo - Can't Catch Me Now 496,016 (-8,747)
49(+7) Sabrina Carpenter - Feather 474,154 (+13,603) *NEW PEAK*
50(+1) Zach Bryan, The War and Treaty - Hey Driver 473,338 (+455)
55(-2) Luke Combs - Fast Car 463,106 (-3,815)
56(+1) Taylor Swift - You're Losing Me 456,847 (-1,642)
61(=) KAROL G, Peso Pluma - QLONA 449,356 (+676)
66(+3) Arctic Monkeys - I Wanna Be Yours 438,255 (+4,935)
69(+1) Taylor Swift - Now That We Don't Talk 429,421 (-2,898)
70(+4) PARTYNEXTDOOR - Break from Toronto 429,089 (+5,111)
72(-1) The Red Clay Strays - Wondering Why 427,947 (-3,403)
73(+3) Zach Bryan - Heading South 424,298 (+5,617)
77(+4) Taylor Swift - Don't Blame Me 415,398 (+5,192)
79(+3) Bad Bunny, Feid - PERRO NEGRO 411,032 (+3,124)
82(+4) Drake - You Broke My Heart 397,550 (-3,011)
86(+6) Nicki Minaj, Drake - Needle 392,139 (+1,721)
87(+1) Jessie Murph, Jelly Roll - Wild Ones 390,942 (-4,507)
88(-1) TV Girl - Cigarettes out the Window 386,777 (-11,889)
93(+3) Ritchy Mitch & The Coal Miners - Evergreen 378,945 (-913)
103(+10) Chris Stapleton - White Horse 362,465 (+7,195)
104(-1) Tate McRae - run for the hills 361,655 (-7,236)
109(-74) Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree 354,171 (-171,347)
110(+1) Steve Lacy - Clouded 352,521 (-4,643)
113(+2) Peso Pluma, Tito Double P - LA PEOPLE 351,083 (-1,001) *NEW PEAK*
114(+7) BigXthaPlug - Mmhmm 350,917 (+3,688) *NEW PEAK*
129(+16) Flo Milli - Never Lose Me 340,532 (+9,884) *NEW PEAK*
133(+1) Zach Bryan - Sun to Me 337,640 (+634)
137(+14) Paul Russell - Lil Boo Thang 333,650 (+7,219) *NEW PEAK*
146(=) Taylor Swift - "Slut!" 327,118 (-3,318)
150(-8) Steve Lacy - Infrunami 322,721 (-9,818)
153(+7) HARDY - TRUCK BED 318,867 (+2,322)
156(-3) Jung Kook - Standing Next to You 315,807 (-9,342)
157(+1) TV Girl - Blue Hair 315,244 (-9,905)
163(+1) Drake - Virginia Beach 311,548 (-2,662)
164(re-entry) Jimin - Closer Than This 311,419
170(+2) Olivia Rodrigo - get him back! 310,195 (+2,026)
174(+18) 310babii - Soak City (Do it) 305,680 (+10,441) *NEW PEAK*
178(=) Bryan Martin - We Ride 304,316 (-2,322)
181(+15) Dua Lipa - Houdini 302,580 (+9,137)
191(-114) Wham! - Last Christmas 295,155 (-123,351)
194(-9) Warren Zeiders - Pretty Little Poison 294,062 (-4,983)
196(-10) Zach Bryan - Revival 293,665 (-4,516)
198(-126) Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas is You 292,621 (-137,909)
Biggest Gains (50K+): Stick Season, Lovin On Me
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Post by David on Dec 29, 2023 13:24:52 GMT -5
Truthfully, I was worried Mariah would be entirely shut out this season... the two weeks at #1 I don't think any fan of hers should take for granted! The gap has been steadily closing every year.
And also, I've been reading things on this board for a very long time... one frequent poster here absolutely HATED that she went to #1 with DFAU and especially TMB. I remember it like it was yesterday... but here we are still talking about Mariah 14 years later while other artists ruined their faces and got hideous, lopsided butt implants... Mariah is doing just fine!
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Dec 29, 2023 13:51:23 GMT -5
Obsessed and especially #Beautiful deserved tho
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Post by chartfreak on Dec 29, 2023 14:14:53 GMT -5
Truthfully, I was worried Mariah would be entirely shut out this season... the two weeks at #1 I don't think any fan of hers should take for granted! The gap has been steadily closing every year. And also, I've been reading things on this board for a very long time... one frequent poster here absolutely HATED that she went to #1 with DFAU and especially TMB. I remember it like it was yesterday... but here we are still talking about Mariah 14 years later while other artists ruined their faces and got hideous, lopsided butt implants... Mariah is doing just fine! And the immaturity level sinks down once again. #notsurprised |
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Post by David on Dec 29, 2023 14:22:50 GMT -5
Truthfully, I was worried Mariah would be entirely shut out this season... the two weeks at #1 I don't think any fan of hers should take for granted! The gap has been steadily closing every year. And also, I've been reading things on this board for a very long time... one frequent poster here absolutely HATED that she went to #1 with DFAU and especially TMB. I remember it like it was yesterday... but here we are still talking about Mariah 14 years later while other artists ruined their faces and got hideous, lopsided butt implants... Mariah is doing just fine! And the immaturity level sinks down once again. #notsurprised #obsessedwithme |
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Post by thatpolishboy on Dec 29, 2023 14:29:35 GMT -5
After Brenda we will have the rise of Kelly and Ariana. Mariah the one trick pony can go into hibernation for enterniy :)
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Post by Music Fan on Dec 29, 2023 14:31:35 GMT -5
Playlisting aside, it seems the GP is starting to turn a leaf on All I Want for Christmas is You. And by the GP I mean a very small population because it's obviously still huge. It's bound to happen to a song that people keep coming to every single Christmas. It was only a matter of time before Brenda took the #1 spot -- it just happened to be this year.
I don't expect AIWFCIY to go into obscurity, of course. But I think it will no longer be the surefire #1 it has been.
With that said -- I still do hope Billboard does something about Christmas songs on the Hot 100.
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Post by chartfreak on Dec 29, 2023 14:41:19 GMT -5
And the immaturity level sinks down once again. #notsurprised #obsessedwithme lol, I don't even know who you are and just started seeing you recently. Enjoy the charts. #2024 |
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Post by Gary on Dec 29, 2023 14:42:51 GMT -5
So what should Billboard do with Christmas songs?
The popularity of Christmas songs is not Billboard's fault.
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