Billboard Hot 100: 11/02/2024

[clsvltn]

Oct 21, 2024 10:55:32 GMT -5 owenlovesmusic said:

Lady GaGa is releasing a new song on Friday. With how weak the charts are, I can see this going #1

would be wild to go from no movement at #1 for weeks to potentially Morgan 1 this week and Gaga 1 next week 

[#LisaRinna]

Why are the Spotify numbers so weak right now?

[Push The Button]

Oct 21, 2024 10:55:32 GMT -5 owenlovesmusic said:

Lady GaGa is releasing a new song on Friday. With how weak the charts are, I can see this going #1

I don’t think her luck is going to change this week.

[jenglisbe]

Oct 21, 2024 11:37:57 GMT -5 #LisaRinna said:

Why are the Spotify numbers so weak right now?

While they are down from what we'd been having as of late, year-to-year it still looks better. Comparison with the equivalent Sunday last year in terms of U.S. Spotify streams:

October 22, 2023
#1 - 1.33 million streams
#5 - 1.05 million streams
#10 - 858,000 streams

October 20, 2024
#1 - 1.58 million streams
#5 - 1.43 million streams
#10 - 1.09 million streams

You can see that each position is up at least 200k streams from this time last year.

I think we're just in a 'calm before the storm' period where there isn't much new and exciting out, and things are on hold for the upcoming holidays.

[badrobot]

Oct 21, 2024 11:52:03 GMT -5 Push The Button said:

Oct 21, 2024 10:55:32 GMT -5 owenlovesmusic said:

Lady GaGa is releasing a new song on Friday. With how weak the charts are, I can see this going #1

I don’t think her luck is going to change this week.

I mean, she's currently in the top ten with a song that debuted at #3 a couple months ago. Yes, the Joker movie/album was a big dud, but I kinda think people are just ignoring that rather than viewing it as some kind of career killer.

I wouldn't bet on a #1 but it's not impossible. There's certainly space in the pop landscape right now for something new to make an impact.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2024 » / « 10 » / « 21 »

1(=) Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy) 83.83(-0.16)
2(=) Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso 69.75(-0.14)
3(=) Hozier - Too Sweet 64.18(-0.31)
4(=) Post Malone - I Had Some Help (feat. Morgan Wallen) 59.03(-0.07)
5(=) Billie Eilish - BIRDS OF A FEATHER 58.91(+0.18) +
6(=) Jelly Roll - I Am Not Okay 58.63(+0.17)
7(=) Teddy Swims - Lose Control 58.50(+0.20)

8(=) Benson Boone - Beautiful Things 51.84(+0.05)
9(=) Kendrick Lamar - Not Like Us 48.53(-0.29)
10(=) Sabrina Carpenter - Please Please Please 48.11(-0.24)

18(=) Morgan Wallen - Lies Lies Lies 36.12(+0.87)

19(=) Myles Smith - Stargazing 35.65(+0.70)

24(+2) Sabrina Carpenter - Taste 29.07(+0.93)

86(+6) Morgan Wallen - Love Somebody 10.95(+0.98)

-(-) Charli xcx - Apple 8.55(+0.73)

-(-) Sabrina Carpenter - Bed Chem 8.19(+0.79) +

[lurker2]

Oct 21, 2024 12:11:53 GMT -5 badrobot said:

Oct 21, 2024 11:52:03 GMT -5 Push The Button said:

I don’t think her luck is going to change this week.

I mean, she's currently in the top ten with a song that debuted at #3 a couple months ago. Yes, the Joker movie/album was a big dud, but I kinda think people are just ignoring that rather than viewing it as some kind of career killer.

I wouldn't bet on a #1 but it's not impossible. There's certainly space in the pop landscape right now for something new to make an impact.

I'd be VERY surprised if her song debuted at number one - honestly, I think the chances it debuts top 10 are 50/50. Gaga's career is definitely successful, don't get me wrong. Her last two big hits (Rain On Me and Die With a Smile) were collaborations with more popular artists. Chromatica did alright, especially for someone so late into her career, but it didn't seem to really strike a chord beyond her pre-existing fanbase. And while it'd be unfair to say Die With a Smile's success isn't because of Gaga, I think Apt.'s success shows Bruno's popularity is nothing to sneeze at.

[fridayteenage]

bts's biggest peak was 11.0 million.
Asian Queen did that!



female songs with bigger peaks, besides Taylor (20something songs):
all I want for xmas*
easy on me
rockin around the xmas*
flowers
Santa Tell me*
bizarrap shakira
drivers license
please please please
good 4 u
lunch
underneath the tree*
snowman*
espresso
die

[badrobot]

Oct 21, 2024 12:38:44 GMT -5 lurker2 said:

Oct 21, 2024 12:11:53 GMT -5 badrobot said:

I mean, she's currently in the top ten with a song that debuted at #3 a couple months ago. Yes, the Joker movie/album was a big dud, but I kinda think people are just ignoring that rather than viewing it as some kind of career killer.

I wouldn't bet on a #1 but it's not impossible. There's certainly space in the pop landscape right now for something new to make an impact.

I'd be VERY surprised if her song debuted at number one - honestly, I think the chances it debuts top 10 are 50/50. Gaga's career is definitely successful, don't get me wrong. Her last two big hits (Rain On Me and Die With a Smile) were collaborations with more popular artists. Chromatica did alright, especially for someone so late into her career, but it didn't seem to really strike a chord beyond her pre-existing fanbase. And while it'd be unfair to say Die With a Smile's success isn't because of Gaga, I think Apt.'s success shows Bruno's popularity is nothing to sneeze at.

It's perhaps obvious to say, but it all comes down to the song. I don't think anyone would've predicted Miley Cyrus would come roaring back with a massive #1 with "Flowers" after struggling on the Hot 100 for several years, but the song hit just right and was huge out the gate.

That said I agree a #1 debut is not super likely but I would love at least top ten for her.

[shakemaki]

The only way Gaga debuts at #1 is if she’s got some incredible Halloween-esque video that goes hugely viral for this last week of October. Which honestly I’m not ruling out since the timing of this still doesn’t make sense to me otherwise, but it would in that case.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Oct 21, 2024 13:58:45 GMT -5 badrobot said:

Oct 21, 2024 12:38:44 GMT -5 lurker2 said:

I'd be VERY surprised if her song debuted at number one - honestly, I think the chances it debuts top 10 are 50/50. Gaga's career is definitely successful, don't get me wrong. Her last two big hits (Rain On Me and Die With a Smile) were collaborations with more popular artists. Chromatica did alright, especially for someone so late into her career, but it didn't seem to really strike a chord beyond her pre-existing fanbase. And while it'd be unfair to say Die With a Smile's success isn't because of Gaga, I think Apt.'s success shows Bruno's popularity is nothing to sneeze at.

It's perhaps obvious to say, but it all comes down to the song. I don't think anyone would've predicted Miley Cyrus would come roaring back with a massive #1 with "Flowers" after struggling on the Hot 100 for several years, but the song hit just right and was huge out the gate.

That said I agree a #1 debut is not super likely but I would love at least top ten for her.

This. We can all predict what’s likely and be right but then something like this happens and throws everything off kilter. Miley was headed into legacy land until “Flowers” became a career peak. Personally, I don’t see Gaga achieving a Flowers-level solo hit (even if DWAS is showing signs of being a major player among her own hits) but it’s definitely not entirely out of the question.

[sedrickwilhelm]

Tyler, The Creator put out a single for his upcoming album Chromakopia (which he is releasing on a Monday, October 28th) the song is called “NOID”

music.apple.com/us/album/noid/1775074027?i=1775074029

[avamaxstan]

Oct 21, 2024 10:55:32 GMT -5 owenlovesmusic said:

Lady GaGa is releasing a new song on Friday. With how weak the charts are, I can see this going #1

Hmm, maybe if the song is amazing. It’s hard to see it debuting as big as DWAS, especially after the floppage of Harlequin just a few weeks ago.

[shakemaki]

I think the potential is at least there for Gaga to have a Flowers moment and hit a shocking career high mark hit that no one expected, but I think it’s this era or bust. Don’t see that potential being there any longer, she’s simply going to be too old for that game (not my rules, but the harsh reality).

[shakemaki]

Anyone happen to have data on Gaga’s biggest h100 hits points-wise, or songs she has in the all-time top 1000? I feel like it’s surprisingly low since so many of her early radio juggernauts were not quite as huge on the h100

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Oct 21, 2024 17:41:01 GMT -5 shakemaki said:

Anyone happen to have data on Gaga’s biggest h100 hits points-wise, or songs she has in the all-time top 1000? I feel like it’s surprisingly low since so many of her early radio juggernauts were not quite as huge on the h100

based on tanooki's update:

bolded are all-time top 1000 songs

1. Just Dance 866k (#218)
2. Poker Face 814k (#296)
3. Bad Romance 744k (#454)
4. Born This Way 534k
5. The Edge Of Glory 429k
6. Applause 428k
7. Paparazzi 427k
8. Telephone 400k
9. LoveGame 373k
10. Shallow 361k

11. Alejandro
12. You And I
13. Rain On Me
14. Die With A Smile 177k (as of 10/19/24)

[shakemaki]

Oct 21, 2024 17:51:39 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Oct 21, 2024 17:41:01 GMT -5 shakemaki said:

Anyone happen to have data on Gaga’s biggest h100 hits points-wise, or songs she has in the all-time top 1000? I feel like it’s surprisingly low since so many of her early radio juggernauts were not quite as huge on the h100

based on tanooki's update:

bolded are all-time top 1000 songs

1. Just Dance 866k (#218)
2. Poker Face 814k (#296)
3. Bad Romance 744k (#454)
4. Born This Way 534k
5. The Edge Of Glory 429k
6. Applause 428k
7. Paparazzi 427k
8. Telephone 400k
9. LoveGame 373k
10. Shallow 361k

11. Alejandro
12. You And I
13. Rain On Me
14. Die With A Smile 177k (as of 10/19/24)

Appreciate it! I kinda suspected JD might be her biggest still. So yeah, the bar really isn’t *that* unachievable. A Flowers sized smash would def send her well past her career best. Maybe even DWAS still has a chance…

[rideordie]

Are we living in an alternate reality where we think a solo lady Gaga song will debut at no.1 in 2024? I mean even with stupid love, if it weren’t for the remixes and website bundles she would’ve been lucky to get a top ten…. BUT then again stranger things have happened this year

[neogale]

Did Stupid Love use remixes? I thought it debuted thanks to hype alone, specially after A Star Is Born.

I think Gaga is definetely debuting inside the top 10, but I'm not so sure of a #1 debut (though I hope so. Another Gaga #1 hit would be amazing!)

[shakemaki]

I don’t think anyone expects a #1 debut, but it’s also not impossible either. Song needs to be catchy and not dated like SL, and like I said I think a buzz worthy Halloween vibe video for Halloween week is her best hope.

[kcdawg13]

I mean even before DWAS she had a pretty popular single with Bloody Mary last year, barring Joker 2 it seems Gaga still captures the public's imagination despite not being as big as she was 15 years ago. I really don't think a #1 debut is out of the question, honestly.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^Bloody Mary charted managed to chart thanks to its sped up version appearing on Netflix series Wednesday and becoming viral along with an associated dance on TikTok.

[fridayteenage]

thank you, jenna ortega.

apple:
78 +31
ROSÉ & Bruno Mars - APT.
at least it's gaining.

[Enigma.]

The low AM position makes me think that the K-pop bot army does part of the job for APT. (Those that make Who charting in top ten on Spotify week after week).

As far as Gaga's new single goes, nothing is certain, except that the fanbase will buy and stream on week 1 - it's the LG7 lead after all.

[fridayteenage]

Oct 22, 2024 1:00:23 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

The low AM position makes me think that the K-pop bot army does part of the job for APT. (Those that make Who charting in top ten on Spotify week after week).

As far as Gaga's new single goes, nothing is certain, except that the fanbase will buy and stream on week 1 - it's the LG7 lead after all.

the same k-pop army that got moonlit floor to #146 and mantra to #57 and on the ground to #43 on US spotify, right.

maybe it's just a huge success and you can be happy for queen roseanne if that's possible.

[Enigma.]

I was referring to global numbers more on Spotify. Who always makes crazy jumps on Sundays there for whatever reason. But it could be all organic and both Rosé and Bruno are huge in the Far East.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

BUBBLING UNDER
#1. GloRilla and Latto - Procedure (DEBUT)
#2. Rod Wave - The Mess They Made (DEBUT)
#3. Charli XCX feat. Shygirl - 365 (RE)
#4. Oscar Maydon and Fueza Regida - Tu Boda (DEBUT)
#5. Rod Wave - IRan (DEBUT)
#6. Jelly Roll - Winning Streak (DEBUT)
#7. BigXthaPlug - Back On My BS (RE)
#8. Rod Wave - Spaceship (DEBUT)
#9. Latto - Brokey (-8)
#10. BigXthaPlug - Take Care (DEBUT)
#11. Rod Wave - Bachelor (DEBUT)
#12. BigXthaPlug - 2AM (DEBUT)
#13. Charli XCX feat. Bb trickz - Club classics (DEBUT)
#14. BigXthaPlug - The Largest (DEBUT)
#15. Rod Wave feat. Rylo Rodriguez - Jersey Numbers (DEBUT)
#16. Shakira - Soltera (RE)
#17. Tito Double P and Chino Pacas - ESCAPATE (-16)
#18. BigXthaPlug - Lose the Love (DEBUT)
#19. GloRilla and BossMan Dlow - Step (DEBUT)
#20. Charli XCX - Von dutch (RE)
#21. GloRilla - Stop Playing (DEBUT)
#22. Zach Top - Sounds Like the Radio (-17)
#23. Dylan Scott - What He'll Never Have (-19)
#24. GloRilla and Muni Long - Don't Deserve (DEBUT)
#25. Charli XCX feat. Caroline Polachek - Everything is romantic (DEBUT)

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Notable Gains:
#19. Gracie Abrams - I Love You, I'm Sorry (+12) *NEW PEAK*
#22. GloRilla - TGIF (+10) *NEW PEAK*
#48. GloRilla - Hollon (+37) *NEW PEAK*
#49. Rod Wave - Fall Fast in Love (+48) *NEW PEAK*
#51. Rod Wave - Passport Junkie (+49) *NEW PEAK*
#62. Charli XCX - Apple (+21)
#64. KSI and Trippie Redd - Thick of It (+20) *NEW PEAK*
#74. Jelly Roll - Liar (+12) *NEW PEAK*

Notable Losses:
#40. Post Malone feat. Blake Shelton - Pour Me A Drink (-11)
#52. The Weeknd - Dancing in the Flames (-11)
#56. Tucker Wetmore - Wind Up Missin' You (-13)
#59. Zach Bryan - 28 (-17)
#60. Peso Pluma and Neton Vega - LA PATRULLA (-13)
#61. Sabrina Carpenter - Juno (-16)
#66. Megan Thee Stallion feat. Yuki Chiba - Mamushi (-18)
#67. Thomas Rhett - Beautiful As You (-11)
#68. Tito Double P and Peso Pluma - DOS DÍAS (-11)
#70. Sabrina Carpenter - Good Graces (-16)
#72. Addison Rae - Diet Pepsi (-18)
#73. Post Malone feat. Luke Combs - Guy For That (-12)
#76. The Kid LAROI - NIGHTS LIKE THIS (-14)
#77. Moneybagg Yo feat. Morgan Wallen - WHISKEY WHISKEY (-20)
#78. Hanumankind and Kalmi - Big Dawgs (-23)
#79. Eminem - Houdini (-21)
#80. Chris Stapleton - Think I'm in Love With You (-11)
#81. Zach Top - I Never Lie (-13)
#83. 21 Savage and Summer Walker - prove it (-12)
#84. Chappell Roan - Red Wine Supernova (-17)
#86. Megan Moroney - Am I Okay? (-23)
#88. Chris Brown - Residuals (-13)
#91. Tito Double P - EL LOKERON (-14)
#97. Future - LIL DEMON (-33)

Notable Dropouts:
Slow It Down (29 weeks)
Belong Together (23 weeks)
CHIHIRO (20 weeks)
Casual (16 weeks)
Love You, Miss You, Mean It (10 weeks)

Biggest Gain in Streaming: I Love You, I'm Sorry
Biggest Gain in Airplay: Stargazing
Biggest Gain in Sales: Pink Pony Club

Gained in Points:
#14. Jelly Roll - I Am Not Okay (+3) *NEW PEAK*
#17. Morgan Wallen - Lies Lies Lies (-1)
#27. Billie Eilish - WILDFLOWER (+1)
#28. Gigi Perez - Sailor Song (+5) *NEW PEAK*
#30. Myles Smith - Stargazing (-3)
#33. Ella Langley feat. Riley Green - you look like you love me (-3)
#39. Chappell Roan - Pink Pony Club (-2)
#41. Charli XCX - 360 (+9)
#43. Koe Wetzel and Jessie Murph - High Road (-3)
#53. Real Boston Richey - Help Me (=)
#55. Charli XCX feat. Billie Eilish - Guess (+4)
#65. Cody Johnson and Carrie Underwood - I'm Gonna Love You (=)
#85. The Marías - No One Noticed (-4)

[suburbandreams]

Oct 22, 2024 1:00:23 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

The low AM position makes me think that the K-pop bot army does part of the job for APT. (Those that make Who charting in top ten on Spotify week after week).

Song is going viral on tiktok especially the bruno mars segment. It already has 2 snippets that have over 100k videos each. www.tiktok.com/music/APT-7427018047518444304

also I love rose but her fandom is a good deal weaker than lisa and jennie whose songs haven't performed anywhere  near as well.

bruno's song with gaga also rose throughout the weekend. it just the nature of a song that gets an increase due to great word of mouth

bruno is super powerful on global streaming with a good song. he doesn't have a huge fanbase to get instant hype (which is where rose helped out)
but a song of his with good word of mouth , will smash.

[leonagwen]