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Post by Kurt on Jan 28, 2015 16:59:53 GMT -5
Looks like they're pushing the In the Lonely Hour mix of this instead of the single version or acoustic. Under Cool New Music (with a cool single artwork too). The version under CNM isn't the album version; it's a new edit (presumably the one Ryan Seacrest premiered last week - it isn't the audio from the acoustic video either). p.s. You can see all the art direction for the singles artwork here - love 'em.
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Post by Pollen on Jan 28, 2015 17:05:50 GMT -5
Looks like they're pushing the In the Lonely Hour mix of this instead of the single version or acoustic. Under Cool New Music (with a cool single artwork too). The version under CNM isn't the album version; it's a new edit (presumably the one Ryan Seacrest premiered last week - it isn't the audio from the acoustic video either). p.s. You can see all the art direction for the singles artwork here - love 'em. Oh really? It sounds pretty similar to me lol. Then again, I only listen to the flawless acoustic version. Well I like the edit under CNM also then. Ooooooooh, those are nice. ETA: Just listened to the album version and realized there are some pretty big differences lol.
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Post by BadRomance on Jan 28, 2015 17:16:53 GMT -5
I said it and I'm gonna say it again, Money On My Mind or Like I Can!!
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Post by SuperLaLaLa~ on Jan 28, 2015 18:38:05 GMT -5
Not against this being a single, but I thought they would have put "Like I Can" out as the third single. (In fact I was hoping LIC would be #3 so they could have Lay Me Down as single #4 instead). Not sure how well it will do but I'm guessing it will do decently at least.
also MOMM should be a single never
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Post by jjose712 on Jan 29, 2015 5:12:28 GMT -5
On a positive note, if this doesn't kill momentum a la Leona Lewis, there's no reason to not release at least a couple of singles more. The album doesn't have a year yet, and it's still selling well, and both singles are holding really well on sales, so if this won't end in disaster (and i think the probabilities are in his favour to be at least a decent hit) nothing stops the label to release something faster (hopefully Like i can won't end with the bunch of smashes never released). I think most of us agree that switching the order would be better, but unless it flops big time it won't happen.
By the way, i know Howard Stern described Sam like an ugly motherf***r (with some people it's quite difficult to know if it's a compliment or an insult) but Sam looks really good in the cover of Rolling Stone
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Post by downsouth on Jan 29, 2015 19:39:04 GMT -5
I saw him sing this on Ellen today. I just don't get the appeal. He has no stage presence. He swayed from side to side as he sang in a Susan Boyle voice. His songs are beginning to sound the same. I think most people felt the same since the song didn't get any higher than 150.
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Post by surfy on Jan 29, 2015 19:46:49 GMT -5
I'm simply captivated by the soulful voice... I don't need a big show, the singing and emotion is enough to get my attention!
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Post by slayZ on Jan 29, 2015 20:37:22 GMT -5
I said it and I'm gonna say it again, Money On My Mind or Like I Can!! I'm so burn out on Sam and anything related to him. Money On My Mind is my most played song of 2014, but yeah, I agree. I'm puzzled by these single choices. They're terrible.
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Post by popbox on Jan 30, 2015 4:00:49 GMT -5
I'm simply captivated by the soulful voice... I don't need a big show, the singing and emotion is enough to get my attention! Yes, this is a beautiful song and his live performances of it are incredible. Still think it's an awful single choice though. But maybe it can pull a "Someone Like You"/"When I Was Your Man"...
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Post by jjose712 on Jan 30, 2015 4:35:51 GMT -5
I saw him sing this on Ellen today. I just don't get the appeal. He has no stage presence. He swayed from side to side as he sang in a Susan Boyle voice. His songs are beginning to sound the same. I think most people felt the same since the song didn't get any higher than 150. The song is 111 right now and it was out of top 400 yesterday, so at least it has an effect. Update it's at 90 right now It's obvious he has problems with his stage presence, but he was a waiter two years ago, so i doubt he has that much experience, and as much as his career started with a splash, he really didn't have to put much effort to put himself in the USA market (compare that with the efforts Ed Sheeran had to do to establish himself and the difference is incredible) i doubt nobody thought he will be that big in so little time. And i know he hates the comparision but there's not that much difference with Adele's performances, she doesn't work the stage either. Pull a Someone like you on the Grammys it won't be easy, because there will be a lot of flashy performances and even some hot ballads right now (like Thinking out loud). What i think he is missing is a little edge, he is doing a too safe path right now, but probably he will have time to change that, because unless this ends being a buzz killer (and i don't think it'll happen, he was able to put a christmas song in the top 50 without even care so i think this will be at least a decent hit) he has time to release something totally different (and it will be very needed because probably the next album will be less safe than this) Anyway, and there's something that it needs to be addressed, he is not your typical male star, and he is not going to be, he will always going to appeal to a more adult audience. If his career doesn't go downhill (after Duffy it's difficult to predict long careers) he will probably sell albums even if radio abandons him (Adele didn't have that much support to her first album but it sold well anyway, and i put Adele because she had radio support for the second, but there are a good bunch of artist with that support that sell a lot of albums). Anyway, it will be inteligent to capitalize on the credit that Latch give to him before ending the era (i don't think he will be close the era anytime soon anyway)
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Post by Live Your Life on Jan 30, 2015 10:03:19 GMT -5
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Post by jjose712 on Jan 30, 2015 11:54:44 GMT -5
I think his vocals are flawless, but with this song it'll be good if he channels his inner Adam Lambert and goes a little over the top. Unless I'm not the only one, this songs favours a little theatrics, at least in the chorus
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Post by allow that on Jan 30, 2015 11:59:27 GMT -5
Just listened to this IN FULL for the first time. Wow, it's even more boring than I had thought.
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Post by nightshade on Jan 30, 2015 22:45:09 GMT -5
Lay Me Down is in the top 100 on iTunes right now. I think this will smash but I wish they just stuck to the one on ITLH
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Post by bigb0882 on Jan 30, 2015 23:20:05 GMT -5
This is one of my favorite songs on the album but that performance on Ellen was so boring. It was like a really bland cover. He didn't add anything to it and he didn't live up to the album version. The emotion just wasn't there. He seemed bored.
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Post by someguy on Jan 31, 2015 0:41:23 GMT -5
This is a nice enough song, but I don't really see it being a huge hit. I'm sure it'll make the top 20 off of his momentum, but something like "Like I Can", "Money On My Mind" or even "Leave Your Lover" could have been another gigantic hit.
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Post by SuperLaLaLa~ on Feb 3, 2015 18:54:42 GMT -5
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Post by jjose712 on Feb 4, 2015 3:33:01 GMT -5
It's quite bad in comparision with what I'm not the only one did. Of course the second single was better planned and even was in the top 50 before the adds date. This was decided less than a week ago so maybe next week will be better. I think the rush maybe has to do with the fact of I'm not the only one peaking, maybe (and that's pure speculation) they thought the grammys will give I'm not the only one a final push but when they realize the song would be in its way down they decided to change the strategy.
We'll see what will happen in the next days, but 20 adds are not that much (and even less for a song without any previous adds) but the fact that big stations addes it is positive.
The song should start to chart by the weekend, i suppose (it's not that it's needed too many spins to chart right now)
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 4, 2015 12:29:40 GMT -5
I bet this gets pulled in favour of a last minute alternative that does well.
Didn't Adele have Rumour Has It third before it got pulled at the last minute?
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Post by Glove Slap on Feb 4, 2015 12:36:17 GMT -5
Gurl...no. This isn't 1994. How are you going to leave a legitimate uptempo hit that successfully showcases some versatility for this?
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Post by Jonathon019 on Feb 4, 2015 12:51:07 GMT -5
I bet this gets pulled in favour of a last minute alternative that does well. Didn't Adele have Rumour Has It third before it got pulled at the last minute? Although I wish "Lay Me Down" would get pulled for "Like I Can," that doesn't seem likely since it already got sent to CHR yesterday, and received a decent, although not great, number of adds (20). You're right about Adele--"Rumour Has It" was initially going to be the third single until they pulled it in favor of "Set Fire To The Rain" (which was selling well on iTunes at the time). That turned out to be a brilliant decision, as "Rain" reached #1 on the Hot 100.
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Post by jjose712 on Feb 4, 2015 12:57:52 GMT -5
It's simply too soon for drama (of course this won't be pulsemusic since a little overreaction) but it's true that it's a totally unnecesary risk, and doesn't seem to be tons of interest for the song. It didn't make top 50 on any format yet, but it's not that rare if we think the song didn't have any add a week ago, and the decision to sent this for adds was less than a week ago.
I'm not the only one entered the chart a week before the adds date but that was announced with a lot of time. It was supposed to be a one two punch with the release to radio and the grammys, but sometimes good vocal performances (it will probably make more headlines if the vocal performance is not great because that's exactly what people expect) don't make such effect on sales. I remember a year when the best performance (from the vocal point) was clearly Kelly Clarkson but she was very far from being the one who benefited most of the grammys.
I think it will probably get way more adds next week, and it will be at least a top 20 hit which it will be enough to recover with the fourth single (and i don't expect the album to drop in sales anytime soon). Even when i think he probably will lose most of his grammys (if not all) i don't think it will affect that much.
Of course, he probably won't suffer the Leona Lewis effect because he first impacted with two dance collaborations, so people know he is not a one trick pony, but the next single needs to be uptempo. Like i can seems pefect for american market, it's catchy and not polarizing, so i think he will recover even if this fails, but i still think it's a bad decision to send this as third single (and it's not a question of the quality of the song, it's a question of chosing the best song in the best moment for their release).
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Post by jjose712 on Feb 4, 2015 13:03:33 GMT -5
I bet this gets pulled in favour of a last minute alternative that does well. Didn't Adele have Rumour Has It third before it got pulled at the last minute? Although I wish "Lay Me Down" would get pulled for "Like I Can," that doesn't seem likely since it already got sent to CHR yesterday, and received a decent, although not great, number of adds (20). You're right about Adele--"Rumour Has It" was initially going to be the third single until they pulled it in favor of "Set Fire To The Rain" (which was selling well on iTunes at the time). That turned out to be a brilliant decision, as "Rain" reached #1 on the Hot 100. Of course there's a big difference between Set fire to the rain and Like i can. Everybody seems to believe (and i'm one of them) that like i can will be an smash single, but there's not real prove (in fact there are a lot of songs of his album that sold way more on itunes) but Set fire to the rain was a smash for sure, that song sold more than half million copies before being a single. It was pretty clear that Set fire to the rain was destined to be number one (or at least very close to that). In fact Adele's team failed miserably not releasing Turning tables as fifth single, because that song would do way better than Rumour has it, and 21 was an album you could release six singles without a problem
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 4, 2015 13:08:43 GMT -5
Adele pretty much could have released anything from her album and it would have done decently because, a) the songs were all ace, and b) she was on fire so a fart would have been a Top 20 hit. Sam is getting the Adele comparisons with his music but his buzz isn't nearly the level Adele's was, especially with the whole "sameness" going on in his album. There's not as much variation and with his recordings having more stiffness than Adele's, he has more of a challenge so there are wrong choices for singles and I think this is one of them. Having his name attached to this song won't guarantee it a hit - yet.
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Post by trustypepper on Feb 4, 2015 13:33:25 GMT -5
I just don't get when people across the industry label Sam as the next Adele, I mean let's not forget that 21 spent 24 weeks at No. 1, while In the Lonely Hour never even reached the peak.
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Post by jjose712 on Feb 4, 2015 13:33:40 GMT -5
Adele pretty much could have released anything from her album and it would have done decently because, a) the songs were all ace, and b) she was on fire so a fart would have been a Top 20 hit. Sam is getting the Adele comparisons with his music but his buzz isn't nearly the level Adele's was, especially with the whole "sameness" going on in his album. There's not as much variation and with his recordings having more stiffness than Adele's, he has more of a challenge so there are wrong choices for singles and I think this is one of them. Having his name attached to this song won't guarantee it a hit - yet. I think both were in totally different situations. Adele's first album was a big success, in fact 19 had more similarities with In the lonely hour than 21. But i think nobody expected 21 to explode in the USA like it did. 19 sold very well but radio passed on her songs (which is a shame because Chasing pavements and Make you feel my love are amazing). Then Rolling in the deep exploted (i remember people doubting the song a lot at first) and the rest is history, but of course 21 is a more mature album and with a more diverse sound When they released In the lonely hour they played simply too safe (some reviews remark that, but to be honest i remember some reviews saying exactly the same about 21) and i can understand why. Sam is too young to make him focus in the adult market (in fact he got that adult market anyway), his looks are far from being the usual looks of commercially successful male singers and of course he is gay, which in the end didn't affect him in a negative way but that wasn't impossible to know before the release of the album. The result, he left some of his best and edgiest songs out of the album. People know his sound goes beyond what's on the album because he has part active on the writing in his collaboration hits, but the album itself is full of good songs but with an obvious lack of variety. There are things that can be improved in the following releases but it will be very good for him if he is able to pull a hit uptempo single, something that's not a ballad, because it will make way easier future releases Anyway, not even Adele was unable to make Skyfall a hit (and the song was way more radio friendly that some recent hits) so even being on the top of your game you can fail. Sam is far from being at that point, i think if he fails with this song they will release Like i can soon (the song is totally ready to radio and with a video). The comparissions are obvious, but he (and probably Adele) always wants to separate from that. He defined her as his own Michael Jackson (his point of reference) but as much as he wasnts to distance himself, everybody knows journalist are lazy and want people labeled, so i think he won't escape from that comparisions from a good while By the way, he received a good bunch of nominations to the iheart radio awards
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Post by jjose712 on Feb 4, 2015 13:37:48 GMT -5
I just don't get when people across the industry label Sam as the next Adele, I mean let's not forget that 21 spent 24 weeks at No. 1, while In the Lonely Hour never even reached the peak. The comparisions have nothing to do with the success of the artist, have to do with the musical influences and style, both are known for having great voices and being very good live and the fact that both are very far from being the usual pop stars
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 4, 2015 13:56:42 GMT -5
Anyway, not even Adele was unable to make Skyfall a hit I'd say that's less to do with Adele and more the song itself. It wasn't really promoted fully and even with the song, it was dated just weeks after it came out because of its direct connection with the movie. Of course there are past examples of similar-type songs doing really well. Madonna's Die Another Day, for one. But that song didn't get much post-chartrun airplay after, did it? No recurrent play or anything? Plus, in today's scene, the shelf life of nearly everything seems shorter than it used to be so having a song titled after a movie with no possibility of having any external connections or room to breathe is going to limit its shelf life immensely.
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Post by jjose712 on Feb 4, 2015 14:19:20 GMT -5
Anyway, not even Adele was unable to make Skyfall a hit I'd say that's less to do with Adele and more the song itself. It wasn't really promoted fully and even with the song, it was dated just weeks after it came out because of its direct connection with the movie. Of course there are past examples of similar-type songs doing really well. Madonna's Die Another Day, for one. But that song didn't get much post-chartrun airplay after, did it? No recurrent play or anything? Plus, in today's scene, the shelf life of nearly everything seems shorter than it used to be so having a song titled after a movie with no possibility of having any external connections or room to breathe is going to limit its shelf life immensely. I think Skyfall in one of her worst songs (and i still think Taylor Swift was robbed in the award season, Safe and sound was miles better than Skyfall) but it was so much expectation that it was impossible not to feel dissapointed by the performance. It received a great amount of spins on its first day, and that was all. The song dropped dramatically after the 8 day effect and never recovered (of course it was top 10 at the hot 100 but it seemed destined to bigger hits) Maybe Rumour has it was a more appropiate example, but it was a top 10 hit on pop, and it only really looked underperforming in comparission with the three monster hits
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Post by jjose712 on Feb 4, 2015 15:33:11 GMT -5
Well it seems he is going to perform with Mary J Blige at the Grammys, so probably he will perform Stay with me. In the case the release of Lay me down as single right now just doesn't make any sense
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