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Post by Kurt on Jan 20, 2016 9:42:46 GMT -5
Will make this and redirect it to Non-Singles for now...
Totally cool with this choice if it's indeed next!
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jan 20, 2016 9:50:13 GMT -5
I know a lot of people love this, but I was hoping for one of the more uptempo tracks next. This is one of my least-favorites on the record and idk I just don't see a whole lot of radio potential in it. I'll obviously be thrilled if it succeeds for her if it is indeed the next single, but I definitely would prefer something like the title track, "Want It All," or a re-release of "My Mistake" instead. I hope whatever they pick though is a hit because I'm over the 1-and-done trend for new females at country radio; "Burning House" should be a springboard to more hits, not Cam's one and only.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 9:57:35 GMT -5
I personally love this song and I think it has smash written all over it. I personally wasn't a fan of the uptem songs like "Want It All" (that's a freaking pop song) and "Untamed" was really just a bro-country song.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jan 20, 2016 13:20:33 GMT -5
I personally love this song and I think it has smash written all over it. I personally wasn't a fan of the uptem songs like "Want It All" (that's a freaking pop song) and "Untamed" was really just a bro-country song. 1. If we're going by what "sounds" like a smash, then uptempo songs that sound like what country radio usually plays would make more sense than another more down-tempo song. "Burning House" didn't sound like a smash either and it only became one because it was given huge exposure by OTV. 2. I completely disagree with your assessment of both of those two songs, especially the title track being bro-country. People just really love throwing around that word it seems.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 13:29:03 GMT -5
I personally love this song and I think it has smash written all over it. I personally wasn't a fan of the uptem songs like "Want It All" (that's a freaking pop song) and "Untamed" was really just a bro-country song. 1. If we're going by what "sounds" like a smash, then uptempo songs that sound like what country radio usually plays would make more sense than another more down-tempo song. "Burning House" didn't sound like a smash either and it only became one because it was given huge exposure by OTV. 2. I completely disagree with your assessment of both of those two songs, especially the title track being bro-country. People just really love throwing around that word it seems. Seriously Mayday to me just sounds like a smash to me ok whatever and I think given Cam's decent sales they'd support it. Really here's a lyric from Untamed "That spot in the woods where the cops don't go" or how about "Making memory lane out of old back roads" seriously that first line sounds awfully similar to Randy Houser current hit. The second lyric just sounds like something a bro-country song would say. I do like the production but those lyrics are rather cliché. Ok and name one country thing about "Want It All". I can't find it. It sounds like a rather boring pop motivation song. I will support a re-release of "My Mistake".
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Post by maine on Jan 20, 2016 14:44:25 GMT -5
I really like this. I'm listening to the album right now, and so far, this is my favorite of the first three I have listened to. This is more midtempo than it is downtempo in my opinion, and is an uptick above "Burning House" in terms of that. I can see this being successful even with how women have struggled on country radio.
I do hope the best for her. She's outstanding.
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Post by Kentucky25 on Jan 20, 2016 19:38:42 GMT -5
I really like this song, it (obviously Burning House) and Cold in California are the best on the album imo.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jan 21, 2016 0:21:42 GMT -5
I'd be okay with this being a single but I'm loving the title track so much that I'd love to see it picked. I'd also be okay with "Cold In California", "Half Broke Heart" and "Country Ain't Ever Been Pretty". Though the whole album sounds like a hit to me.
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Post by YourFaveIsAFlop on Jan 22, 2016 15:18:50 GMT -5
Mayday sounds like old Taylor Swift in places to me. I could see them try to cross her over to pop or AC with upcoming singles so they probably have a bit of an eye on what would work on different formats
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Post by g8erboi on Jan 23, 2016 9:05:08 GMT -5
We can move this back over to the official country singles forum.
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Post by rbundy1987 on Jan 23, 2016 19:53:50 GMT -5
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Post by zjames on Jan 23, 2016 20:02:19 GMT -5
The album grew on me a lot, and "Mayday" is a very good song. But I just don't think this is the best choice for her. I was really hoping for "Hungover On Heartache" or "My Mistake"; those songs have "hit" written all over them in my opinion. "Mayday" is a a lot riskier and I'm not sure it's in her best interest to release risky songs given the state of second singles from newer female artists. I'm not saying "Mayday" will flop. I think it will do well and is a potential Top-5 hit, but I think it's less of a certainty as "Hungover on Heartache" and "My Mistake" are.
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Post by carriekins on Jan 23, 2016 20:41:46 GMT -5
Love the song, but it's a risky choice. I hope it works out for her, but I probably would have picked something more uptempo to follow up Burning House. That said, I do applaud following a risk with a risk. Hopefully Bobby Bones will buy into this just as much as he did with BH and help drive it.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 23, 2016 20:46:32 GMT -5
I know many here don't care for hockey but I can't stop thinking of Brad May's famous overtime goal to eliminate the Boston Bruins in the 1993 NHL Playoffs when I see this thread title, lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 20:47:13 GMT -5
It's a risk for sure but man I admire when an artist doesn't do the norm so yeah I am so for this and so excited.
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Post by dm2081 on Jan 23, 2016 22:43:27 GMT -5
I actually like this better than "Burning House". It's not the most country sounding song, but the drums give this song an interesting feel. I have no clue how this one will fair on the charts. On one hand I can see radio being hesitant to play this one, but on the other hand I think this will be a big digital seller and streaming song. Hopefully that'll be enough to at least get this top 10. "Hungover On Heartache" would have been my choice.
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Post by someguy on Jan 24, 2016 0:23:49 GMT -5
I like this a lot. I agree that it's not too radio friendly, but I think it's more radio friendly than "Burning House" and we all know how that turned out, so who knows. Hopefully Cam is doing well enough right now that radio will give it a chance, and it takes off.
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Post by cufan7 on Jan 24, 2016 1:45:17 GMT -5
This is my favorite song from the album and I would love to see it as the next single if a re-release of "My Mistake" is not an option.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jan 24, 2016 3:46:20 GMT -5
Well I hope this risk pays off because this release honestly surprised me. There were a lot of good choices for radio on this album and this was one of the few that I never saw as a potential single. It really seems like a bit of a gamble to pick this, but I do hope it does well and follows in the footsteps of "Burning House." It won't have the extra benefits that allowed that one to take off in the big way that it did though so hopefully country radio is willing to give this girl a follow-up hit. I don't want to get too optimistic seeing as country radio has been a little more welcoming (but only a little) towards females in the past year, but still, Kelsea Ballerini is the only female in a long time to score a true follow-up hit, and Jana took 3 years before she got hers, so the odds aren't exactly great for radio to be all-in on this one. She's received a lot of good press and hype because of BH though, so I do hope that translates enough to get this into the Top 20 and keep her going.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 10:55:46 GMT -5
Cam (and/or Sony) is really going for a unique sound here. This is how debut acts used to do it. Let's see if it works for her. I sure hope so. Maybe we've finally had enough of new artists giving us vanilla safe songs in order to break out (Brett Eldredge, Frankie Ballard, Kelsea Ballerini, Michael Ray). Nobody on the radio sounds like Cam right now and if radio and the fans embrace her, that says a lot more about her potential longevity than any of the other newbies can say.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 11:04:55 GMT -5
Yeah that's one thing I have noticed Cam compared to some of the other newcomers like Kelsea Ballerini, Frankie Ballard, Michael Ray, A Thousand Horses and Canaan Smith heck I think her debut album sold more than Maddie & Tae. Her sales as a whole are better than a lot of the other newcomers I think the only acts that have outsold Cam that only have one album out so far are Cole Swindell, Sam Hunt, Jon Pardi (I think he had better opening sales overall), Tyler Farr (that's another if) Dan + Shay and Chase Rice.
Cam's album sales are very solid so just the fact that she is releasing a mid tempo ballad, beautifully sung I might add I think it shows Cam and Sony as someone who isn't going to go directly by the book.
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Post by jonathanalan on Jan 24, 2016 12:41:05 GMT -5
SO HAPPY FOR THIS! It's definitely a fan favorite so I'm glad to see it's release. She honestly has a handful of radio hits on her album.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 12:56:07 GMT -5
It sounds like a Tracy Chapman song. That's not a bad thing and I see it doing well. But that is who it reminds me of. Almost to the point I could've sworn I've heard the track before with different lyrics.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jan 24, 2016 14:09:13 GMT -5
Cam (and/or Sony) is really going for a unique sound here. This is how debut acts used to do it. Let's see if it works for her. I sure hope so. Maybe we've finally had enough of new artists giving us vanilla safe songs in order to break out (Brett Eldredge, Frankie Ballard, Kelsea Ballerini, Michael Ray). Nobody on the radio sounds like Cam right now and if radio and the fans embrace her, that says a lot more about her potential longevity than any of the other newbies can say. You can compare her to Kelsea Ballerini I suppose, but it's pretty unfair here to stack her up against any male artists. A lot of male artists could easily get away with releasing riskier choices, but females just don't have that luxury. The fact that Kelsea Ballerini just scored the first back-to-back Top 10s of any new female country artist in the last like 10 years is not cause to celebrate that women are now free to release whatever they want and it'll become a hit. I think Cam has a lot of momentum and hype around her that will *hopefully* translate into this being a hit, but I don't agree that giving radio risky is the best path to stardom for a female in today's market. Beyond all that though, I don't think there's anything vanilla about the more radio-friendly tracks on her album anyway. Cam's more uptempo tracks are still better and more interesting than most of the newer boys have been relying on anyway. Anyway, I'm not saying this is a flat-out bad move to make at this point, but I'm not seeing the golden opportunity that many others seem to be seeing. "Burning House" would not have blown up the way it did without OTV and I could see this one struggling a bit since it won't have that luxury. She's in a good spot right now, but she's still a female artist who is choosing to release another song that sounds like something that radio would just give a collective "nope" to if someone without any momentum/hype would've released. So, like I said before, I really hope the risk pays off, because this is definitely a risk imo.
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Post by tvoss20 on Jan 24, 2016 16:36:47 GMT -5
Sure beats Burning House, which puts me to sleep.
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Post by rsmatto on Jan 24, 2016 17:13:54 GMT -5
Yeah that's one thing I have noticed Cam compared to some of the other newcomers like Kelsea Ballerini, Frankie Ballard, Michael Ray, A Thousand Horses and Canaan Smith heck I think her debut album sold more than Maddie & Tae. Her sales as a whole are better than a lot of the other newcomers I think the only acts that have outsold Cam that only have one album out so far are Cole Swindell, Sam Hunt, Jon Pardi (I think he had better opening sales overall), Tyler Farr (that's another if) Dan + Shay and Chase Rice. Cam's album sales are very solid so just the fact that she is releasing a mid tempo ballad, beautifully sung I might add I think it shows Cam and Sony as someone who isn't going to go directly by the book. Cam has outsold Jon Pardi. Also, to others calling this "risky," I just don't see that at all. It's a mid tempo song, perfect for radio.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 17:26:43 GMT -5
Yeah that's one thing I have noticed Cam compared to some of the other newcomers like Kelsea Ballerini, Frankie Ballard, Michael Ray, A Thousand Horses and Canaan Smith heck I think her debut album sold more than Maddie & Tae. Her sales as a whole are better than a lot of the other newcomers I think the only acts that have outsold Cam that only have one album out so far are Cole Swindell, Sam Hunt, Jon Pardi (I think he had better opening sales overall), Tyler Farr (that's another if) Dan + Shay and Chase Rice. Cam's album sales are very solid so just the fact that she is releasing a mid tempo ballad, beautifully sung I might add I think it shows Cam and Sony as someone who isn't going to go directly by the book. Cam has outsold Jon Pardi. Also, to others calling this "risky," I just don't see that at all. It's a mid tempo song, perfect for radio. It's risky because she's following this up with a ballad. I guess like uptempo would have been better but I like it when an artist goes against the norm.
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Post by hosssulpizio on Jan 24, 2016 17:42:25 GMT -5
I think this song is good. I wouldn't say it's risky. More and more people are starting to like slow tempo songs. I know I do.
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Post by rsmatto on Jan 24, 2016 19:42:52 GMT -5
Cam has outsold Jon Pardi. Also, to others calling this "risky," I just don't see that at all. It's a mid tempo song, perfect for radio. It's risky because she's following this up with a ballad. I guess like uptempo would have been better but I like it when an artist goes against the norm. This is a mid tempo ballad. Radio LOVES these kind of songs.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2016 19:51:17 GMT -5
It's risky because she's following this up with a ballad. I guess like uptempo would have been better but I like it when an artist goes against the norm. This is a mid tempo ballad. Radio LOVES these kind of songs. But she is a woman on country radio. A mid tempo after a ballad we have never seen a female singer get away with that. I donthink radio could eat this song up given the success of Die A Happy Man so I think this might be a smart move.
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