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Post by Daniel Collins on Jul 28, 2015 7:01:36 GMT -5
Mediabase 07/28/15 1. TAYLOR SWIFT - Bad Blood f/Kendrick Lamar: 189.011 (- 0.269) 2. THE WEEKND - Can't Feel My Face: 169.606 (+ 1.119) 3. OMI - Cheerleader: 158.868 (+ 0.996) 4. WALK THE MOON - Shut Up And Dance: 143.573 (- 0.935) 5. WIZ KHALIFA - See You Again f/Charlie Puth: 138.736 (- 2.650) 6. DAVID GUETTA - Hey Mama f/N. Minaj & Afrojack: 117.130 (- 2.736) 7. RACHEL PLATTEN - Fight Song: 106.718 (+ 1.748) β² 8. ANDY GRAMMER - Honey, I'm Good: 105.509 (- 0.516) 9. JASON DERULO - Want To Want Me: 105.229 (- 0.925) βΌ 10. FIFTH HARMONY - Worth It f/Kid Ink: 96.375 (+ 0.307) 11. MAJOR LAZER - Lean On f/MΓ & DJ Snake: 85.552 (+ 1.802) 12. ED SHEERAN - Photograph: 83.236 (+ 1.156) 13. SKRILLEX & DIPLO - Where Are U Now w/J. Bieber: 80.946 (+ 0.770) 14. MARK RONSON - Uptown Funk f/Bruno Mars: 76.477 (- 1.055) 15. MAROON 5 - Sugar: 74.291 (- 0.107) 16. OMARION - Post To Be f/Chris Brown&Jhene: 73.121 (+ 0.120) 17. BRANTLEY GILBERT - One Hell Of An Amen: 67.191 (+ 0.354) 18. FALL OUT BOY - Uma Thurman: 64.708 (+ 1.846) β² 19. JASON ALDEAN - Tonight Looks Good On You: 64.667 (- 1.942) βΌ 20. TOVE LO - Talking Body: 63.119 (- 0.837) βΌ ELLIE GOULDING - Love Me Like You Do: 62.963 (- 0.661) MICHAEL RAY - Kiss You In The Morning: 62.618 (+ 0.797) DEMI LOVATO - Cool For The Summer: 61.791 (+ 1.227) SILENTO - Watch Me: 60.991 (+ 0.816) LUKE BRYAN - Kick The Dust Up: 57.117 (+ 1.000) SELENA GOMEZ - Good For You f/A$AP Rocky: 56.727 (+ 1.289) JIDENNA - Classic Man: 55.538 (+ 0.372) FETTY WAP - My Way f/Monty: 47.496 (+ 0.796) THOMAS RHETT - Crash And Burn: 41.023 (+ 0.656) SAGE THE GEMINI - Good Thing f/Nick Jonas: 26.955 (+ 0.135) X AMBASSADORS - Renegades: 26.926 (+ 0.430) MEEK MILL - All Eyes On You f/Minaj/Brown: 23.334 (+ 0.827) CHARLIE PUTH - Marvin Gaye f/Meghan Trainor: 22.608 (+ 0.845) FLORIDA-GEORGIA LINE - Anything Goes: 21.238 (+ 0.452) ZEDD - Beautiful Now f/Jon Bellion: 20.657 (+ 0.308) R. CITY - Locked Away f/Adam Levine: 19.473 (+ 0.888) JASON DERULO - Cheyenne: 19.253 (+ 0.464) 5 SECONDS OF SUMMER - She's Kinda Hot: 18.490 (+ 0.699) KELLY CLARKSON - Invincible: 16.382 (+ 0.098) JANET JACKSON - No Sleeep: 15.379 (+ 0.006) THE WEEKND - The Hills: 12.073 (+ 0.588) SHAWN MENDES - Stitches: 10.208 (+ 0.262) MEGHAN TRAINOR - Like I'm Gonna Lose You: 9.701 (+ 0.316) CALVIN HARRIS + DISCIPLES - How Deep Is Your Love: 7.398 (+ 0.290) DISCLOSURE - Omen f/Sam Smith: 1.519
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Post by wjr15 on Jul 28, 2015 10:11:25 GMT -5
Uma Thurman finally Top 20!!! Now Demi just needs to move up a few spots
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 10:20:40 GMT -5
So its literally IMPOSSIBLE for a country song to peak higher than 17 on radio???? and I am talkin about a legit country song, not one that crossed over to pop.
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Post by wjr15 on Jul 28, 2015 10:23:15 GMT -5
So its literally IMPOSSIBLE for a country song to peak higher than 17 on radio???? and I am talkin about a legit country song, not one that crossed over to pop. There's been country songs over the past year that have made it up to 11 or 12. It's not too much higher than 17 but it's better. There's just more stations playing pop music than country music
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 28, 2015 10:36:32 GMT -5
So its literally IMPOSSIBLE for a country song to peak higher than 17 on radio???? and I am talkin about a legit country song, not one that crossed over to pop. There's been country songs over the past year that have made it up to 11 or 12. It's not too much higher than 17 but it's better. There's just more stations playing pop music than country music Actually, there's way more country stations across the US than pop, but they're all mostly centralized in the Midwest and South. For example, where I live, there's one pop station, one rhythmic, two hot ACs, an AC, and then over 10 country stations, and this is the case with most Midwestern and Southern lower populated areas (a 2.5 hour drive to Kansas City and suddenly there's many pop, rhythmic, urban, rock, and hot AC stations, with maybe one country? I actually haven't heard a country station in the KC area, but I'm not actively looking), and that trend continues with all the major cities. So, since the airplay chart is tracked by audience impressions instead of play counts, the big country songs just stall around the lower teens. There's also the fact that most country songs get played on only country stations, whereas your typical mainstream hit can rock the pop, rhythmic, hot AC, and AC charts at the same time, with other songs crossing over as well to urban, rock, alternative, AAA, etc. For example, you can find the number one pop song, "Cheerleader," on pop, hot AC, rhythmic, and AC right now. That helps to expand their AI as well. You just don't get into the top ten without crossing over formats, and country songs rarely ever do. I remember reading in a Rolling Stone article once about how there's over 3,000 country stations versus like 850 pop, but when I just Googled it for the actual numbers, I'm getting much lower numbers. 1990 country to 292 pop - www.musicbizacademy.com/articles/radio/stations.htmThough this link says there's 15,455 radio stations in the US. The first link only adds up to 8,255 of "ones that have new-music formats," and it claims only 12,500 stations exist. But, both articles can attest that there are many more country stations to pop stations.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 11:22:33 GMT -5
Using sales/8 + airplay/10000 + streams/750
"Cheerleader": 154k/8 + 136M/10000 + 15M/750 = 52850 "Can't Feel My Face": 140k/8 + 143M/10000 + 15M/750 = 51800
Too close to call; it could go either way. It all depends on just how well the video of CFMF does as well as how much of a sales gain it sees (Kworb predicts 119k weekly sales for now). I think on the 8/22 issue it's practically guaranteed #1, and given the continued airplay increases and the relatively new video it can easily get 5+ weeks at #1.
Early prediction for the top 10:
1. Cheerleader (2-3% lead) 2. Can't Feel My Face 3. Watch Me 4. Bad Blood 5. Fight Song 6. See You Again 7. Trap Queen 8. Shut Up And Dance 9. My Way 10. Lean On
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Ravi
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Post by Ravi on Jul 28, 2015 11:42:36 GMT -5
^ Your formula seems wrong?????
For past few months, the formula that is being used is Sales/12 + Airplay/10000 + Streams/900
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Post by jarhys on Jul 28, 2015 12:05:19 GMT -5
^ Your formula seems wrong????? For past few months, the formula that is being used is Sales/12 + Airplay/10000 + Streams/900 Actually, there might be all 'wrong' formula since we don't know the actual one.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 12:11:06 GMT -5
^ Your formula seems wrong????? For past few months, the formula that is being used is Sales/12 + Airplay/10000 + Streams/900 I just used the one that someone used in the previous thread. But now that you mention it, this one seems inconsistent with the "15% lead" that the article mentioned. Perhaps it's something like sales/8 + airplay/9000 + streams/800. I feel like sales has heavier weighting now because sales figures are abysmal (seriously...the top-selling song has barely over 150k sales). In any case though, it should be really close between Cheerleader and CFMF.
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jul 28, 2015 12:29:09 GMT -5
Hahahaha! The weeknd is "on fire"!! Especially in the video!! (But why only Apple music?? No YouTube??)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 12:30:32 GMT -5
Come on "Lean On", get that airplay top 10!
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Post by hugozul on Jul 28, 2015 14:10:07 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 14:50:19 GMT -5
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Post by rimetm on Jul 28, 2015 15:03:54 GMT -5
Hate to rain on your parade, but that's not the official channel. (The real one is entitled "TheWeekndVEVO")
For now, it's an Apple Music exclusive, and the only points the song will get unless it goes to normal services are proxy points to sales.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 28, 2015 15:56:56 GMT -5
It's still on YouTube under the Music category...if user-generated Harlem Shake video views counted then why wouldn't the ones for this one count?
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 28, 2015 16:07:13 GMT -5
Hate to rain on your parade, but that's not the official channel. (The real one is entitled "TheWeekndVEVO") For now, it's an Apple Music exclusive, and the only points the song will get unless it goes to normal services are proxy points to sales. The link posted on YouTube should still count as well since it's listed under music.
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Post by rimetm on Jul 28, 2015 16:32:41 GMT -5
Not denying that it will count, but it's first off not gonna get any significant views and will be taken down in a few days by Apple (they did the same with uploads of Energy and Yesterday, if memory serves).
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Post by TylerG11 on Jul 28, 2015 17:17:11 GMT -5
And the video has been blocked already. Damn. Do you think they'll put it on YouTube at the beginning of the next tracking period?
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Post by brady47 on Jul 28, 2015 17:39:10 GMT -5
Is anyone impressed with the longevity of BBHMM? I thought it would sink so fast, but it's having more longevity (although a way smaller peak) than FourFiveSeconds! I think it will last more than 20 weeks on the chart. FourFiveSeconds had 15 weeks in the top 50, and BBHMM has 18 weeks in the top 30.
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Post by soul2soul on Jul 28, 2015 18:44:29 GMT -5
Weeknd missing out on all those streaming points for CFMF video then? I guess they wanna keep it as an Apple Music exclusive for now and then put it YouTube at the start of the next tracking period to give it a full week of streaming? At least, that seems the most logical reason..
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jul 29, 2015 6:25:40 GMT -5
Is there anyone who can explain to me why the fresh hell did "trap queen" get that high streaming and ... for weeks on end? I was like.. OMG!!! That doesn't make any sense, does it? Because it's like.. Who's watching the video or streaming a song like "trap queen" for that many weeks tirelessly?? I mean, look at the big no.1 streaming songs before most of them make a lot of sense to me why they are where they are: Wrecking ball: a phenomenal music video with tremendous controversy out of all those twerking, visual impact, sexual temptation and serves as a great follow-up of her previous explicit-as-they-come "we can't stop" video
Anaconda: no wonder it can get no.1 in streaming!! It's darn tootin a soft porn to straight males and that's a strong reason..
Fancy: Iggy was a controversial Internet personality at that time plus this video is a parody of clueless and really fun to watch.. In addition, this song's commercial success is indebatable: at least both its digital and radio have been no.1.. It's like a summer jam and one of the earmarks that makes 2014 what it is.
Uptown funk: It got so big at digital in the first place and then naturally its streaming started to catch fire as well. Its streaming is not hard to believe for it's a decade-defining song and a great blaze from the past plus sold for over 6 million copies already..
Harlem Shake: A stereotypical viral Internet dance hit like "watch me" (which has not hit streaming no.1 yet thanks to you "trap mosquito"!!!!) You know, the amount of stream and user-generated videoes were horrendous for that's just all the rage back then and people just danced.. or just got crazy and shook at the trap song "Harlem Shake" made by Baauer who let this kind of dance from 80s household
Shake it off & all about that bass: good promo.. huge commercial success..follow the 2014 trend of butt-shaking.. fun to watch vids.. No wonder
Blank space: Taylor Swift acted demoniac? Bart baker parody personality? The astonishly high-quality and high-budget video of her follow-up single of the biggest song so far of her career? For sure this song without spotify at all could stay atop streaming chart for it never fails to impress and still fun after months and not to mention for a singer who has a "ginormous fanbase...
See you again: Well... About a dead people.. dead years ago.. And people never fail to get so emotional about it and run out of their ways to show that! It's like a modern day "candle in the wind 1997" only it does better at streaming (especially YouTube which almost makes 1 billion by now!!) than sales.. People loooove watching a video about a dead people's life only after years of his death for somehow people care about his death because it's taken advantage of as making a commercial hit.. Anyway, people just do that. No wonder at all this song can get so big, at YouTube and streaming in general!
Now what about our hero today, "trap queen"?? I mean, seriously, whhhhyyyy this song peaked no.1 at streaming instead of "watch me" or "cheerleader" or "bad blood". It doesn't create near as a dance rage as "watch me" or does so well as a summer jam like "cheerleader" or has a really nice video like "bad blood".. It does nothing.. And it gets 21 million streams per week??? Commercially it only peaked around no.10 at radio and was not sold much non-surprisingly.. and speaks of artist he didn't have fan base at all before this surprising hit and he just poorly makes a really really generic video about this generic song where the only thing unique about it is he sounds like orgasm. Anyway, just a nobody from nowhere and does not create any significant controversy or rage nor gets this single good sale and good airplay.. And then he gets 21 million streaming in a single week and it stays no.1 at streaming for weeks though its sale and radio are hemmoraging and no longer even close to the top!! Then why? Who's accountable for its no.1 in streaming?
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Post by Enigma. on Jul 29, 2015 6:54:53 GMT -5
OK.
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Post by imbondz on Jul 29, 2015 7:00:47 GMT -5
I work out and Trap Queen has been constantly streamed for the past 2 months at the gym. Terrible lyrics but greeeeat song.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 29, 2015 7:51:13 GMT -5
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Post by Ravi on Jul 29, 2015 8:48:00 GMT -5
^ Your formula seems wrong????? For past few months, the formula that is being used is Sales/12 + Airplay/10000 + Streams/900 I just used the one that someone used in the previous thread. But now that you mention it, this one seems inconsistent with the "15% lead" that the article mentioned. Perhaps it's something like sales/8 + airplay/9000 + streams/800. I feel like sales has heavier weighting now because sales figures are abysmal (seriously...the top-selling song has barely over 150k sales). In any case though, it should be really close between Cheerleader and CFMF. Using my formula This week's points: Cheerleader: 163/12 + 131.8/10 + 13.7/0.9 = 41,985 Can't Feel..: 122/12 + 136.8/10 + 10.8/0.9 = 35,846 So, CFMF is 14.62% lower than CL, i.e. 15%. When you consider last week's points: Cheerleader: 172/12 + 122/10 + 13.7/0.9 = 41,755 Can't Feel..: 161/12 + 128/10 + 10.7/0.9 = 38,105 So, Cheerleader stayed almost flat, while CFMF declined by 6%, as mentioned by the Billboard article.
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Post by rimetm on Jul 29, 2015 11:59:32 GMT -5
OK, now it's up for real. Judging by the likes (over 10,000 in less than an hour), I think it might at least close the gap between CFMF and Cheerleader this Billboard week.
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Post by House Lannister on Jul 29, 2015 13:05:46 GMT -5
Let's not forget the increased interest created when Tom Cruise lip synced the song on the Tonight Show. Doesn't add anything to streaming, but might contribute to people checking out the video, buying the song, etc.
Like I said last week, I think OMI gets this next week. But wouldn't be surprised if The Weeknd takes over the following week.
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Post by Mikel Echarri on Jul 29, 2015 13:28:09 GMT -5
The sales of CFMF has been rising more and more before the premiere of the video, and still rising
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Post by THINKIN BOUT YOU on Jul 29, 2015 15:32:45 GMT -5
No it's not something like that! I'm just curious why trap queen is that successful!
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Post by Gary on Jul 29, 2015 15:45:19 GMT -5
The whole uproar over 'Trap Queen' reads like, 'OMG, how is it possible that a song I do not personally like, is a big hit with others?"
Answer: It happens.
I don't think I have ever embraced every song that hits the top 10 but having songs hit that go beyond my range of enjoyment from time to time, I think is good, not bad. As a chart watcher, it exposes me to music, I might not have otherwise heard.
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