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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Sept 25, 2018 6:03:59 GMT -5
Vote: Nose For a few things, mostly that I townread both Cynthia and Caged far more. I respect process of elimination. But first /Julie What is your role claim? What is your power and how did you use it? What do you think about Caged killing Sercies on night 1 and why do you think there haven't been any other night kills this entire game? Do you think it's at all suspicious that Cynthia has lasted as long as she has? Exactly what Cynthia said, I used it night one against Wob and Cynthia to create a Quicktopic neighbourhood with them. I don't like it but from town!Caged's perspective I understand it. And I've been tone town-reading them this whole game anyway lol. But for the latter, IDK lol. Technically pluraity means it's probably better for scum to NK to get it to MYLO (Lol) instead of LYLO and force a lynch there but I don't really think anyone would've considered doing that, especially not Caged. Uh... not really? Day 1 we got mafia, night 1 is ?? but Caged controlled A kill, the day 2 lynch was sad and Cynthia controlled it anyway. And last night is ?? so there's not really a particular reason why Cynthia should be dead? |
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Sept 25, 2018 6:05:58 GMT -5
Yeah, this is what I was getting at here. The apology felt like a scum slip. I considered the possibility of two hits in one night as soon as I saw Caged's role claims, although Sercies successfully jailing mafia is also a possibility. Either way, it brought me back to D2 when you threw out the idea that I would have killed Sercies b/c an experienced player would know to aim for him. And well, that description could fit you just as well. Were you projecting? Ultimately I took the Occam's Razor approach when I put my vote on Caged b/c making sense of a town vig with the way this game has played out feels too convoluted. However, I want Mylo to elaborate more on his reason for voting for you. Or more so, why he remains more suspicious of you than Caged on D3. We were both suspicious of you on Day 2 but at the moment I'm distracted by everything that is going on with Caged, so I'm wondering what Mylo is seeing from you on D3 that I'm not. re your last post: I think mylo hasn't responded to your role claim b/c he already feels he has role claimed (and I backed him up on said claim). He didn't state his title outright, but he's essentially a neighborizer. I think I have seen a game before where there was a mafia variant of this role, but it's most often town. Oh, and his flavor is Nicki Minaj. Don't think he mentioned that in here. Continuing to question him about what IMO has already been made clear feels off to me. He hasn’t made it clear in here though. He may have in the quicktopic but I wasn’t in there. If everyone else explained their roles to some degree and he didn’t to the same level, and avoided answering when I asked him twice is not only odd to me, it’s annoying. It’s also even more odd that you’re speaking for him and defending him on this given that more information and more discussion can only help us. It’s also odd to me that Caged threw a vote at me earlier for not role claiming ‘properly’ yet Mylo still hasn’t. Granted, I don’t necessarily think that Mylo is our scum. He has been the most towniest lean for me of you three but I’d still like his input and would like to hear from him directly. While he’s made a lot of posts this phase, he hasn’t given much of any worth and we’re down to the wire right now. Sorry, I really haven't given this game much attention past night 1 but hopefully in this rushed 10 minutes I'll do as much as possible? |
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Sept 25, 2018 6:13:00 GMT -5
So basically:
I've tone-read pretty much every post Caged has made as town. His style really doesn't seem like a newbie scum and his claim doesn't effect that at all for me. Honestly, it might make it stronger, I doubt he would as scum come up with a 1-shot vig idea.
Cynthia is a minor possibilty at scum but I have similarily liked their posting recently and their claim is reasonable too. I am a bit peeved they killed my biggest town read over my biggest scumread, and meant that in the chance Nose was town I'd get a second chance but I can understand the chaos behind the madness of their thoughts there.
Nose is my biggest scumread because I really haven't had ANY reason to town read them? They don't play like I'd expect them to as town, they didn't push the day 1 scum lynch and pushed my biggest townread day 2, and their tone hasn't helped in the slightest. Like, it's just hard for me to see the town gears in their head, it seems more like they're trying to make everyone seem more suspicious instead. And that, with the fact that I do townread Cynthia and Caged kinda means that it's pointed every sign at them
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 25, 2018 6:22:41 GMT -5
Given that Mylo has the quicktopic in his favour, and neighbourizer is most often not a town role, and that Mylo has been townleaning to me for most of the game, I think he's town.
Caged made a questionable move with the Sercies kill but I don't think he would have said the same thing about apologizing if he were scum. I can't decide whether him even having a killing power in a game of 5 vs 2 is even a fair game though? But either way, Caged feels like an overly apologetic town.
Cynthia's role claim is that she was able to see her visited her, which she claimed before Caged or myself did so if she were making that up, that's a risk to say nobody visited her without knowing for sure that it's not possible anyone could have. I tried to look up the possibility of that role being scum but I couldn't find the exact name of the role and I can't see how such a role would be useful for scum but I guess it's possible. If Cynthia were scum, I don't know if I could see her trying so hard to decide which of us to go after since either one is a win for her and at this point I'm a pretty easy target - but that's probably what Scumthia would do just because she can.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 25, 2018 6:29:09 GMT -5
Ugh! And I have to leave for work in a few minutes so I'm not likely to be able to check in again before deadline.
Is there anything I can answer for you (Mylo) that would help you see that I'm town? It's frustrating because we get this one last chance so the wrong vote will make us lose this game. I know I can come off as scummy, mostly because of my lack of attention to detail until later in the game and it almost always catches up to me. Sercies once said that as a scum player, I'm really good but when I'm town, I suck. lol I'm almost always suspected when I'm town because I often lack focus when I don't know anything, whereas being scum, I know who's who so I'm able to use that to my advantage.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 25, 2018 9:07:27 GMT -5
In trying to think it over while I sit distracted at work, vote: Cynthia because this scenario makes more sense to me than either of the other two being scum. You’re the only one who could pull this off and the only one I’m comfortable laying a vote on.
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Post by Lux ◢ ◤ on Sept 25, 2018 9:11:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 12:18:24 GMT -5
I am so annoyed, our internet keeps going out and making it impossible for me to post what I want. I have lost patience for trying to multiquote or type a long post again so I am just going to put my vote in
vote: Nose bc the reasoning behind your vote on me feels like you're grasping at straws now ("scumthia would do that just bc she can" literally what???) and just throwing out whatever theory you can in hopes something will stick.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 25, 2018 12:44:59 GMT -5
It’s weak I admit but process of elimination and gut feeling (lol don’t @ me) makes me think that. Mylo has the neighbourizer to support him (which isn’t also a guarantee...) and Caged has the admission of a night kill for him, which also isn’t a guarantee but there’s no way a scum would admit to killing someone unless we’re giving him too much credit. That leaves you and your unconfirmable roll claim and...not really much else. Which I fully understand is all I have too.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 12:45:49 GMT -5
At this point, I have to go back with my original vote
Vote: Nose
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 25, 2018 12:50:03 GMT -5
Funny thing is, I had the option of changing my deflection target for day 2 and I thought about changing it from Wob to Cynthia as at that time I felt both were equal in my view as to their likelihood of being scum. I opted to keep it on Wob because I felt if I was targeted and Cynthia was killed, Wob would grill me harder in day 3 without leaving room for discussion. He’d be more likely to tunnel vision me. When he flipped town, my thought was then that Cynthia would be the likely target for night 2 and if she made it (with either Mylo or Caged killed), it would be more clear to me that she was the remaining scum.
Granted, none of that matters because I ended up not being lynched in day 2. If I had been, town would likely be in a better position now because I wouldn’t be such an unnecessary target.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 25, 2018 12:53:19 GMT -5
Though if/when I’m lynched, I assume the game is over unless there’s another night of no-kill.
What sucks is that the scum player is getting by because I suck as town and nobody is even looking at anyone else. If Cynthia is the scum, she’s got it easy because while Caged and Mylo have their suspicions of me, they haven’t been digging too deeply into each other or Cynthia to determine why they believe them to be town. It’s like they’re satisfied to follow each other’s lead. I might suck but at least I was willing to consider the possibility of each of you as the scum.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 25, 2018 20:53:38 GMT -5
So.....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 21:27:29 GMT -5
have we entered the twilight zone?
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 25, 2018 21:39:54 GMT -5
I’m guessing so. The day ended like 7? hours ago.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2018 22:56:27 GMT -5
Well, that too. But I was making an actual twilight zone joke lol
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Post by Lux ◢ ◤ on Sept 26, 2018 0:04:48 GMT -5
Yeah, I apologise. It's been a busy week :\ Welcome Rose "Payola" Nylund to Skull Island.You’ll be starring as Taylor Swift. Starting as a country star, you crossed over to become a full-fledged Pop star. Starting with your first #1 single We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together, it was clear you went for a different course. Then, your next album 1989 produced a string of hits that no one could avoid. You truly became the biggest star in the country. Shake It Off debuted at #1, a universally loved video for Shake It Off and many more hits. You got it all. But then came Reputation, an album that addresses some of the negative thoughts that haunted you. You said it was a one-time thing, but regardless, it was not the follow-up many people expected, or wanted. Regardless, you are just here to get on the better side of the media. Maybe you can show to be a decent human while on this show. You are sided with the Town.Once a game, you can use Look What You Made Me Do at night. If you were supposed to die that night, or the following die, for any reason, you will survive and be able to kill someone else instead. You’re aligned with the town. Good luck, your host Lux ◢ ◤ . Since neither town role alive can prevent the Mafia from winning, this is game over. GG to @antigonerising for winning! Green Room: www.quicktopic.com/52/H/uPHN9ePk86EPrivate Convo: www.quicktopic.com/52/H/mfsms8TQ2KT |
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Post by wob on Sept 26, 2018 1:59:59 GMT -5
gg, was fun
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Post by Lux ◢ ◤ on Sept 26, 2018 2:05:38 GMT -5
Ready for Mylo's hilariously waaaay too early reads that are likely completely wrong lol but at least advance the gamestate?  #HOTTAKES coming up! Caged is a town lean from his 3 posts, Sercies is also a kinda town lean from his too? Wob and Nosey are null, and my fave scum reads right now are Kelly and Preds. Kinda sus of PRED's post and Kelly is kinda not acting like I'd expect them to as town? Of course these are all based off roughly 2 posts each but hey, at least it brings the discussion! Ironically these were 100% correct. |
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Post by Mylo13 💜 on Sept 26, 2018 5:11:38 GMT -5
Ahhh sorry guys, my ideal lynches would've been nose and then cynthia but the wob lynched stopped that :( This was still fun though so GG!
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Sept 26, 2018 5:32:16 GMT -5
Ugh
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 8:07:43 GMT -5
Oh i thought I was going to have to send in one last NK to formally resolve. But yay me I guess. I have never been so stressed out as a mafia player in my life.
1. plurality rules are scum. vote: plurality
2: this game's balance was...something else, but I'm going to guess that the green room has said more than enough about it so all I will say is that it's hilariously ironic that this game being imbalanced against my faction ended up saving me, b/c it let me play Caged against Max after the role claims. (to clarify the real problem with the balance is that it was just too swingy and made the game almost wholly dependent on night actions and not the strength of the players themselves)
3. I targeted wob on N1 and spent all of day two and some of day 3 thinking that either Max or Caged was a redirector, and whichever one wasn't that was probably investigative. bc of this I purposely didn't send in a kill on N2 so that I couldn't be tracked or screwed over with another misdirected bullet (and also there was no 2-on-1 option that i felt confident winning). I took a MAJOR gambit with my role claim b/c I had no idea what Max was but my plan was to just go with it and hope that mylo and Caged chose to believe me over him.
4. I am officially retiring since Kunt and Max have f**ked me over in all future games by calling out all of my moves in this thread. (I was HOWLING when Max clocked me for doing s**t "just because she can" - truth was I was just paranoid that mylo or Caged would flip and I was trying my damnedest to look town as possible. I probably 'overplayed' this game more than was necessary.)
5. I don't want to share this victory with Preds. Can I claim independent?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 8:10:52 GMT -5
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Post by Albie on Sept 26, 2018 8:23:21 GMT -5
Ready for Mylo's hilariously waaaay too early reads that are likely completely wrong lol but at least advance the gamestate? #HOTTAKES coming up! Caged is a town lean from his 3 posts, Sercies is also a kinda town lean from his too? Wob and Nosey are null, and my fave scum reads right now are Kelly and Preds. Kinda sus of PRED's post and Kelly is kinda not acting like I'd expect them to as town? Of course these are all based off roughly 2 posts each but hey, at least it brings the discussion! Ironically these were 100% correct. So...he did the same thing last game. Clocked Coco's ass within minutes. They may be hunches Mylo13 💜 but those initial feelings of yours tend to be ON POINT. Go with them more. I was literally howling in the Green Room when I saw your post above. Lol don't worry Lux made sure to turn it into somewhat of a convo by posting it in the Green Room for us. |
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Post by Lux ◢ ◤ on Sept 26, 2018 8:23:21 GMT -5
I'm sorry if the game was too swingy... I even had two people check it, but I'm not used to how things are run here. Regardless, the only really swingy role was the OS Vigilante, in my opinion. The Jailkeeper is nice, but like all could only be used once. The topic-creator was mostly a manipulative weapon but it didn't really affect what happened otherwise, and Rose "Payola" Nylund's role was odd, but I didn't think it was that bad. I'm sorry if it was too much... |
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Post by Albie on Sept 26, 2018 8:26:08 GMT -5
I'm sorry if the game was too swingy... I even had two people check it, but I'm not used to how things are run here. Regardless, the only really swingy role was the OS Vigilante, in my opinion. The Jailkeeper is nice, but like all could only be used once. The topic-creator was mostly a manipulative weapon but it didn't really affect what happened otherwise, and Rose "Payola" Nylund 's role was odd, but I didn't think it was that bad. I'm sorry if it was too much... I thought the roles were fun actually but it probably could have used a bigger cast to feel right. Great game regardless though and nice job of hosting! It turns out I probably would have had time to play this time around but I didn't want to over commit the way work was looking. Maybe @antigonerising will be up for hosting one during her retirement. and like any great legend, you better be coming out of retirement at some point in the future |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 8:36:24 GMT -5
Again: why the f**k would I, as scum, change the vote on my DOA partner last minute when I’m just as well cutting the chord and bussing him without even lifting a finger (which is what scum did and what was outlined plain as day in the thread earlier)? I’m STILL salty I got murdered for this but it’s a good point to why, if you don’t feel like reading threads, you shouldn’t be playing this game. But in fairness it was a first time player mistake so w/e. It was a cute game but girl in certain scenarios it would’ve been over N1 lol. Also fuck plurality [2] but that’s just a Pulse preference I think. We don’t play like normal. iconic |
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Post by crazyb on Sept 26, 2018 8:38:13 GMT -5
I love how preds just bailed after 1 post
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2018 8:45:08 GMT -5
Lux ◢ ◤ yeah, I think this game was just too small for all the power roles that were squeezed into it. For a 9 or 10 player game I think it would have been fine. Or maybe even 8 - I think I recall you saying that the game was originally made for 8 people and then someone dropped out? That one less player likely made all the difference. Reading the green room now and it's funny, Kunt immediately found the balance skewing toward scum instead of against it, and he's not wrong either. This is what I mean by too swingy. If I were town I would have spotted what he did about a potential N1 endgame, but I was scum so tbh it could have been a N1 endgame on ME had Caged nailed his vig shot, and I would have been big mad b/c I would have lost through no fault of my own (I purposely led a lynch on my own partner lol so it would have essentially been punishing me for my own strategy). But also even if I didn't lynch Preds, the game could have theoretically ended in a town win by the vig lucking out and hitting one scum on N1, and the deflector lucking out and targeting the other scum on N1 and town mislynching the deflector. This was a very luck based game and I know Scumcies would have been just as salty as Scumthia would have been at that. I think it's admittedly also tricky doing mafia games on Pulse b/c we get a lot of repeat players with specific playing styles/attention spans, so you have to balance for both the game itself and for the players who are likely to sign up for it. You're relatively new to us still so unfortunately this isn't something you could have known or accounted for. Albie if no one else is in line to do so I'd be happy to host the next one! It would likely be an open or semi-open setup to lower the curve a little bit.
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Post by Albie on Sept 26, 2018 8:49:53 GMT -5
@antigonerising I think I could definitely be up for a Cynthia hosted game. And that way Lux and others that usually host could have a chance to play.
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