Billboard Hot 100: 12/16/2023

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Dec 4, 2023 21:04:25 GMT -5 Acid Eyes said:

Meanwhile, y'all should be grateful Taylor chose to release YLM midweek instead of on a Friday

already down to #15 on Spotify and #39 on AM, I don't think it'd even be a top 5 contender if released on Friday, the first 24h were exceptional, and that's it. 

[jenglisbe]

Dec 4, 2023 21:10:06 GMT -5 Gary said:

Anyone who follows this sort of thing are aware of both songs. people can choose what they want to stream - regardless of placement of playlists

And yet in other chart weeks talk in here is of how a rising placement on TTH helps, for example. Now playlists suddenly don't matter?

The first time ever video for the song and extra appearances seem to be helping, I think

The music video only has 3.3 million views worldwide in its full month of release. How did that make a difference?

Some of y'all just aren't being serious.

I do think "RATCT" was going to get to #1 anyway, so in a general sense this is good to see.

[balletgirlmom]

Congrats to Brenda Lee and RATCT!

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Dec 4, 2023 21:27:23 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Dec 4, 2023 21:10:06 GMT -5 Gary said:

Anyone who follows this sort of thing are aware of both songs. people can choose what they want to stream - regardless of placement of playlists

And yet in other chart weeks talk in here is of how a rising placement on TTH helps, for example. Now playlists suddenly don't matter?

It surely helps, probably the best promo you can get today (not counting TikTok), I mean the playlist has 35M likes...but I also don't think it can help significantly. I know some songs that were in the top 5/10 of TTH for months, and there wasn't much effect.

If we talk about that Xmas playlist, I assume most people leave it in the background? so I'd say there's no big difference between #1, #2 or #5.

[Az Paynter]

Dec 4, 2023 20:48:01 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Dec 4, 2023 18:30:05 GMT -5 Az Paynter said:

Has Brenda not been inching closer to Mariah every year for the past several years? Isn't it interesting that the conspiracy theories only just started flying now that Brenda finally hit that tipping point. Stan-coloured glasses are WILD.

You note that it's been inching closer, yet then wonder why people would question it catapulting past it for the season? We aren't talking about it squeaking out a week at #1, which would have made sense and I actually thought would happen last year. We're talking about "RATCT" suddenly being raised on every major streaming platform and then having the biggest gains its ever seen (something like a 3000% increase on Pandora) to then seemingly not only overtake "AIWFCIY" but to now take a huge lead it looks to carry through the entire season. If anything what you said is further proof that something shady went on, because if things had continued the way they had been going "RATCT" would have inched past "AIWFCIY" the week of Christmas. There wouldn't have been any drama either because we all thought that was likely coming.

Hell just look at how predictions early in the week had "AIWFCIY" at #1 by a small margin, then later in the week it was a tie, and then in final predictions "RATCT" was barely ahead. But then when final numbers came out "RATCT" was actually fairly far ahead. That all shows it had sudden, significant gains at the end of the chart week. Those huge gains don't align with any sort of "inching closer." Nothing I have been stating is "WILD" and I don't appreciate your statement. We are literally looking at factual evidence.

You're a teacher, you do know what a "tipping point" is don't you?

[HolidayGuy]

This week, Spotify's Christmas Hits playlist has "Last Christmas" listed first, with "Rockin'..." listed third. The chicanery of it all. Guess that means Columbia and Wham! are coming for that No. 1.

Even with the bump down, "Rockin..." still had a 650,000-plus lead over No. 2 "Jingle Bell Rock" on U.S. Spotify on Dec. 3. The Wham! hit was No. 5.

On a related note, streamers' playlists are global, yes? Meaning, they're the same in all countries. Just because "Rockin..." was a strong contender for the Hot 100 No. 1, it's an issue for some- but I gather it's not an issue in terms of global streaming/global charts.

[wavey.]

Dec 4, 2023 15:56:41 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

vibes

Not too much on my sista😘😘

[KeepDeanWeird]

Anyway, Mariah has the 30th Anniversary of MC coming in 2024. Anyone thinking Sony/Mariah won't be promoting that like crazy....

I'd like to see them push hard (with special vinyls, etc) to finally get MC to #1 next December. The biggest obstacle might be the Queen of Vinyl if she release TS11 next fall.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 12/03/23

Christmas Songs:
1(=) Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree 2,356,690 (-139,308)
2(+1) Bobby Helms - Jingle Bell Rock 1,695,847 (-66,477)
3(-1) Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas is You 1,682,512 (-111,771)
4(+1) Andy Williams - It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year 1,411,335 (-61,826)
5(+1) Wham! - Last Christmas 1,373,133 (-86,976)
7(+1) Dean Martin - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! 1,269,585 (-36,926)
8(+1) Burl Ives - A Holly Jolly Christmas 1,208,115 (-52,783)
9(+2) Michael Bublé - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas 1,068,209 (-53,162)
11(+3) Ariana Grande - Santa Tell Me 1,033,815 (-57,533)
12(+3) Bing Crosby, Ken Darby Singers, John Scott Trotter & His Orchestra - White Christmas 1,033,687 (-47,504)
14(+3) José Feliciano - Feliz Navidad 1,007,839 (-47,867)
17(+1) The Ronettes - Sleigh Ride 987,350 (-36,340)
18(+1) Nat King Cole - The Christmas Song (Merry Christmas to You) 978,351 (-37,932)
19(+1) Michael Bublé - Holly Jolly Christmas 938,487 (-60,241)
21(=) Kelly Clarkson - Underneath the Tree 893,893 (-60,600)
22(+1) Perry Como, The Fontane Sisters, Mitchell Ayres & His Orchestra - It's Beginning to Look a Lot Like Christmas 875,943 (-47,504)
23(+3) Frank Sinatra - Jingle Bells 841,027 (-35,197)
25(+5) Elvis Presley - Blue Christmas 807,848 (-41,257)
27(+5) Darlene Love - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) 794,975 (-48,142)
34(+6) Nat King Cole - Deck the Halls 718,746 (-18,136)
38(=) Frank Sinatra, B. Swanson Quartet - Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! 693,689 (-51,466)
39(=) Chuck Berry - Run Rudolph Run 688,315 (-55,130)
40(+1) Justin Bieber - Mistletoe 678,348 (-40,659)
41(+1) The Beach Boys - Little Saint Nick 676,077 (-29,448)
43(+3) Eartha Kitt, Henri René and His Orchestra - Santa Baby 660,226 (-20,129)
47(+1) Bing Crosby, The Andrews Sisters - Mele Kalikimaka 632,906 (-28,997)
53(+3) Burl Ives - Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer 572,545 (-24,877)
54(+1) Eagles - Please Come Home for Christmas 568,681 (-30,973)
57(=) Paul McCartney - Wonderful Christmastime 548,612 (-38,945)
58(+5) Vince Guaraldi Trio - Christmas Time is Here 544,626 (-5,086)
61(+4) Gene Autry - Here Comes Santa Claus (Right Down Santa Claus Lane) 517,301 (-21,090)
66(+6) Gayla Peevey - I Want a Hippopotamus for Christmas (Hippo the Hero) 502,488 (-27,106)
67(=) Mariah Carey - Christmas (Baby Please Come Home) 494,336 (-42,767)
71(+13) Donny Hathaway - This Christmas 485,956 (-13,219)
73(+15) Sia - Snowman 480,195 (-9,855)
75(+5) Bruce Spingsteen - Santa Claus is Comin' to Town 476,937 (-28,515)
78(+4) Taylor Swift - Christmas Tree Farm 472,404 (-28,461)
79(+10) Andy Williams - Happy Holidays / The Holiday Season 468,418 (-18,012)
83(+3) John Lennon, Yoko Ono - Happy Xmas (The War is Over) 465,581 (-30,417)
89(+5) Nat King Cole - Joy to the World 460,348 (-12,121)
94(-3) The Jackson 5 - Santa Claus is Coming to Town 452,857 (-27,541)
99(+11) Dean Martin - Baby, It's Cold Outside 431,537 (-12,380)
102(+49) Frank Sinatra - Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas 427,994 (+46,944) (+12%)
103(-5) Band Aid - Do They Know It's Christmas? 427,580 (-33,399)
104(-4) Kelly Clarkson, Ariana Grande - Santa, Can't You Hear Me 426,998 (-29,935)
106(+1) Gwen Stefani, Blake Shelton - You Make It Feel Like It's Christmas 422,066 (-23,538)
108(=) Bing Crosby - Winter Wonderland 419,302 (-25,738)
112(+2) Judy Garland - Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas 409,377 (-14,179)
113(=) Elvis Presley - Here Comes Santa Claus (Right Down Santa Claus Lane) 408,185 (-17,897)
118(+2) Perry Como - (There's No Place Like) Home for the Holidays 396,131 (-20,779)
122(+4) The Jackson 5 - I Saw Mommy Kissing Santa Claus 390,838 (-19,908)
126(+10) Bing Crosby - Do You Hear What I Hear? 380,310 (-20,883)
127(+23) Frank Sinatra - Mistletoe & Holly 375,376 (-5,868)
129(+5) Jonas Brothers - Like It's Christmas 372,538 (-30,479)
133(+9) Pentatonix - Hallelujah 369,766 (-19,060)
140(+1) *NSYNC - Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays 365,249 (-25,222)
145(+31) Vince Guaraldi Trio - O Tannenbaum 359,597 (-67)
153(+29) Michael Bublé - Santa Claus is Coming to Town 348,953 (-3,382)
162(+15) Thurl Ravenscroft, Boris Karloff - You're A Mean One, Mr. Grinch 342,398 (-14,548)
164(+14) Nat King Cole - Caroling, Caroling 340,258 (-16,225)
181(+15) Britney Spears - My Only Wish (This Year) 321,465 (-15,853)
188(re-entry) Carpenters - Merry Christmas Darling Remix 314,792
197(re-entry) Idina Menzel, Michael Bublé - Baby, It's Cold Outside 309,142
200(re-entry) Darlene Love - Winter Wonderland 309,142

Top 10 Without Christmas Songs
6(-2) Jack Harlow - Lovin On Me 1,351,787 (-249,509)
10(+3) Mitski - My Love Mine All Mine 1,043,339 (-54,120)
13(-1) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 1,028,954 (-73,199)
15(-8) Taylor Swift - You're Losing Me 1,000,592 (-329,022) (-25%)
16(-6) Zach Bryan, Kacey Musgraves - I Remember Everything 987,732 (-133,660)
20(-4) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer 918,878 (-137,380)
24(=) Doja Cat - Agora Hills 808,151 (-86,808)
26(-4) Tate McRae - greedy 807,166 (-120,303)
28(-3) Drake, Yeat - IDGAF 781,675 (-95,131)
29(-1) Lil Tecca - 500lbs 778,365 (-85,650)

Other:
30(-3) Morgan Wallen - Last Night 753,522 (-122,168)
31(=) Doja Cat - Paint the Town Red 744,790 (-102,439)
32(-3) Gunna - fukumean 741,830 (-113,266)
33(+1) SZA - Snooze 718,978 (-86,242)
35(=) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 718,621 (-81,631)
36(-3) Taylor Swift - Is It Over Now? 713,277 (-117,450)
37(-1) SZA - Kill Bill 702,731 (-76,025)
44(-7) Drake, J. Cole - First Person Shooter 652,893 (-114,557)
46(+1) Olivia Rodrigo - vampire 633,201 (-42,366)
48(+2) Frank Ocean - Pink + White 627,297 (-21,162)
50(-7) Travis Scott - I KNOW ? 617,881 (-80,933)
51(+2) Olivia Rodrigo - Can't Catch Me Now 607,569 (-22,423)
52(-7) JID, 21 Savage, Baby Tate - Surround Sound 601,416 (-79,467)
55(-6) Bad Bunny - MONACO 563,552 (-91,713)
56(-4) Fuerza Regida, Marshmello - HARLEY QUINN 551,768 (-85,608)
60(+14) TV Girl - Lovers Rock 529,396 (+3,521)
62(-3) Drake, Sexyy Red, SZA - Rich Baby Daddy 513,370 (-54,865)
65(-7) Tyla - Water 502,731 (-75,516)
68(-8) Tate McRae - exes 492,409 (-67,928)
74(-4) Taylor Swift - Now That We Don't Talk 479,079 (-53,850)
80(-26) Beyoncé - MY HOUSE 468,325 (-154,061) (-25%)
82(-21) Morgan Wallen - Thinkin' Bout Me 467,442 (-87,372)
84(-1) Kenya Grace - Strangers 464,359 (-36,431)
85(-16) Calle 24, Chino Pacas, Fuerza Regida - Que Onda 464,054 (-71,335)
88(-10) KAROL G, Peso Pluma - QLONA 461,432 (-50,110)
92(-24) Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero 457,942 (-77,555)
93(+10) TV Girl - Not Allowed 455,284 (+3,688)
96(+1) Billie Eilish - What Was I Made For? 441,072 (-22,310)
98(+13) Laufey - Winter Wonderland 433,939 (-7,436) *NEW PEAK*
100(-5) Kali Uchis - Moonlight 430,988 (-37,911)

109(-16) Luke Combs - Fast Car 416,274 (-61,252)
116(+3) Brent Faiyaz - Clouded 405,300 (-13,124)
119(-17) Bad Bunny, Feid - PERRO NEGRO 393,260 (-60,501)
121(-3) PARTYNEXTDOOR - Break from Toronto 391,142 (-27,805)
123(-14) Taylor Swift - Karma 388,186 (-56,559)
128(=) Zach Bryan, The War and Treaty - Hey Driver 374,475 (-33,676)
130(+2) Noah Kahan, Post Malone - Dial Drunk Remix 372,443 (-32,343)
132(-15) Taylor Swift - "Slut!" 372,052 (-49,059)
135(+14) Sabrina Carpenter - Feather 369,384 (-12,438) *NEW PEAK*
136(-9) Zach Bryan - Oklahoma Smokeshow 369,193 (-39,005)
137(+38) TV Girl - Cigarettes out the Window 369,042 (+8,715)
138(-14) Taylor Swift - Don't Blame Me 367,884 (-45,807)
141(-18) Zach Bryan - Heading South 363,900 (-50,646)
142(-21) Xavi - La Victima 361,313 (-43,960)
147(+6) Taylor Swift - cardigan 357,835 (-22,194)
150(-33) Dua Lipa - Dance the Night 355,033 (-66,387)
161(-36) Drake - You Broke My Heart 342,793 (-70,572)
167(-32) Dua Lipa - Houdini 336,768 (-65,266)
168(-14) Peso Pluma, Tito Double P - LA PEOPLE 335,668 (-43,249)
171(-2) Jung Kook - Standing Next to You 331,279 (-32,908)
173(+10) Noah Kahan, Hozier - Northern Attitude 330,559 (-21,399)
175(+19) The Weeknd, JENNIE, Lily-Rose Depp - One of the Girls 329,707 (-7,794)
178(-11) Drake - Virginia Beach 323,384 (-43,213)
185(-22) Teddy Swims - Lose Control 317,557 (-52,151)
186(-14) Jessie Murph, Jelly Roll - Wild Ones 317,068 (-45,823)
195(re-entry) Laufey - From the Start 311,230
196(re-entry) Steve Lacy - Infrunami 310,921

Biggest Gains (50K+): Godzilla, Heather

US TOP 20 WITHOUT CHRISTMAS SONGS
#1. Lovin On Me
#2. My Love Mine All Mine
#3. Stick Season
#4. You're Losing Me
#5. I Remember Everything
#6. Cruel Summer
#7. Agora Hills
#8. greedy
#9. IDGAF
#10. 500lbs

#11. Last Night
#12. Paint the Town Red
#13. fukumean
#14. Snooze
#15. Something in the Orange
#16. Is It Over Now?
#17. Kill Bill
#18. Heather
#19. First Person Shooter
#20. No Role Modelz

[Mayman]

Dec 4, 2023 11:58:37 GMT -5 Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... said:

Dec 4, 2023 11:55:11 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Wait, so what's happened that's gotten everyone so riled up? Brenda's song was moved up on streaming service's holiday playlists? Or Mariah's song was temporarily removed from said playlists? The second one is fishy for sure. The first one - not sure why that's an issue. Songs rotate and move around on playlists all the time and seemingly isn't based on anything other than the whims of the respective services.

If we look at it like a physical store, you might say that songs placed near the top of the playlist are akin to albums/singles placed at the front of a record store. Those are the ones the retailer is predicting people will buy (or the placement that labels are requesting/buying, since I'm pretty sure companies can request specific placement of their products on shelves in stores). I also assume they can't request competitive products NOT be sold in the same stores (though that's probably wrong too from what I've heard about the available of bread in certain stores depending on location but I digress). So I guess it kind of depends on what the situation really is and who's behind it. If it's the outlet (Spotify, Pandora, whatever) removing the song, then it's on them and unfortunately fair game even if it sucks (and probably wouldn't be unlike Amazon deciding to sell Born This Way for 99 cents). If it's Brenda's people requesting they pull Mariah from the playlist, then yeah, that's definitely reason for side-eye.

They did both. They moved Mariah’s song down on every major Xmas playlist and they also removed it from playlists last week and added back (on a more lower placement mind you) when the cut off period ended.

I keep seeing people say AIWFCIY was removed from a high profile Spotify playlist but I haven't seen anyone say which playlist. Which one was it? I'm genuinely asking.

I do find it odd that people are upset over a song being moved from #1 to #3 on a playlist which is likely being put on by people for long periods of time. They likely just hit play and let it run for a while. Without shuffling, the first three songs can be listened to within likely 8-10 minutes, so it's not like people won't get far enough in the playlist to hear song #3. It just seems like people are whining over nothing? Like Mariah's song has been #1 for 12 weeks and likely will rack up more over the next several years. There seems to be more interest from US Spotify listeners for RATCT, so naturally it's going to move up on US orientated playlists. Sure some of these playlists are for global audiences, but for example, TTH never matches up with what's actually the "top hit" on their chart.

[#LisaRinna]

NOT Spotify already dropping Brenda on the playlists! Looks like the checks bounced already

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Idk, call me dumb or obtuse or whatever but I’m still confused about the whole situation and exactly what the problem is.

[HolidayGuy]

^Mostly a problem that "All I Want..." now has a genuine challenger to its U.S. holiday dominance, and are laying blame on playlist placement- which has positively impacted 'All I Want..." and most hits throughout the streaming era. They suspect UMG had something to do with the supposed removal of "All I Want.." on Spotify- an unlikely scenario. And even if it were, it sure didn't affect the global streaming/charts. Like I said somewhere else, very "2020 Election Fraud" vibes going on with all that nonsense.

"Rockin..." did move down to 3 on Spotify's Christmas Hits playlist- yet it's still had a strong lead Sunday over No .2 on U.S. Spotify, and was 550,000-plus ahead of the No. 2 holiday track yesterday. Thus, apparently, the song is getting streamed whether it's listed first, second, third, or lower.

[mst3k]

Hey, here's another possibility... Mariah herself requested that her song be dropped from playlists for a few days as a gift to the *OG* Queen of Christmas.

And they say her heart grew three sizes that day...

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Dec 5, 2023 8:21:42 GMT -5 HolidayGuy said:

^Mostly a problem that "All I Want..." now has a genuine challenger to its U.S. holiday dominance, and are laying blame on playlist placement- which has positively impacted 'All I Want..." and most hits throughout the streaming era. They suspect UMG had something to do with the supposed removal of "All I Want.." on Spotify- an unlikely scenario. And even if it were, it sure didn't affect the global streaming/charts. Like I said somewhere else, very "2020 Election Fraud" vibes going on with all that nonsense.

"Rockin..." did move down to 3 on Spotify's Christmas Hits playlist- yet it's still had a strong lead Sunday over No .2 on U.S. Spotify, and was 550,000-plus ahead of the No. 2 holiday track yesterday. Thus, apparently, the song is getting streamed whether it's listed first, second, third, or lower.

I've seen some mention the song was removed from key playlists for periods of time ranging from hours to several days. And then others questioning it. Which is it? That's what's confusing me. If it was removed, then yeah, that's suspicious, but then from there, why? That can only be speculated. Was it:
-the streaming services themselves?
-Brenda's team?
-Brenda herself asking nicely?
-Mariah's team?
-Mariah herself wanting to be generous?

Beyond that, most of the discussion is around playlist placement, which is also confusing to me. We likely already know placement on a playlist matters. After all, we put emphasis on what's on top or near the top of the Top Hits one, and others. So we know that Mariah's been lucky to be on the top of holiday playlists year after year. I get a sense of entitlement based on the responses when she's not there. With each passing year, AIWFCIY is growing in resentment from people and that could very well be a reason why it's not on top. (mind you, I still feel holiday giddy when I hear those first notes. It is one of if not THE favourite holiday song of mine). Could be an experiment. Could be by request from Brenda's team. In any case, we now see how important placement on streaming playlists can be. If you're mad about this, are you also mad about all the strategic placement of albums and singles in actual record stores throughout history.

And then there's the whole thing about passive streaming. Someone mentioned on one of these threads recently about how passive streaming is akin to radio airplay and that people aren't purposely seeking these songs out as much as others. So, do both AIWFCIY and RATCT (and all other holiday songs) rely almost entirely on passive streaming? And does that matter?

I guess it all just comes down to intent. How music is placed (whether in radio playlists, stores, or in a streaming playlist) is dependent upon the decisions of a few people - and it's always been that way since time began. These are the people who influence what we the listeners consume. Naturally we want a chart that represents what we consume in a way that it as natural and organic as possible, but that's never really been the case and behind every #1, there's a story of how that song got there and more often than not (or probably even every time), there's something that got that song to the ears of millions of people that many of us would be disappointed in. The chart measures what we as a collective hear. That's all it can be. How those songs get to our ears - you either like it or you don't.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

What a mess. And all this over Mariah losing a singular week at #1 with a song that's already surmounted 12+ weeks at #1 and from a catalog of an artist with 19+ #1s. lol What's gonna happen when the seasonal favorite keeps shifting?

[avamaxstan]

I don't see this as the end of Mariah's reign tbh. Now that she's been re-added to the major playlists, I think she'll return to #1 by the Christmas/NYE tracking week. And I think next year the race won't be as close with RATCT without all the promo and excitement for Brenda to finally get the #1. That being said, I do hope the other classics (especially Last Christmas) will challenge for #1 in the future. These seasonal charts are so boring that competition makes it more exciting.

[Choco]

It's cute that Brenda got a #1 peak at last. She was very happy on that interview they did with her. She promoted it a lot this year.

[Envoirment]

I'm hoping "One More Sleep" by Leona will get some love on the playlists and move up. I'm not asking for much but it would be great if it could one day chart on the Hot 100. Sadly the main spotify Christmas playlists tend to be very US-focused so Leona doesn't usually get high placements.

[parrotparent]

Andrew Ridgeley probably would need to help promote Last Christmas, since he's the surviving half of Wham, for it to hit #1 in the US. I don't know if it's that important to him given how far back George Michael broke up the duo ('86-'87). But next year is LCs 40th anny so maybe Andy will. I guess he does still get LC royalties.

[clsvltn]

Dec 5, 2023 13:29:01 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

I'm hoping "One More Sleep" by Leona will get some love on the playlists and move up. I'm not asking for much but it would be great if it could one day chart on the Hot 100. Sadly the main spotify Christmas playlists tend to be very US-focused so Leona doesn't usually get high placements.

this is one of my most favorite (modern) christmas songs... well, xmas song period! it is a staple for me each year!!

[Deleted]

Dec 5, 2023 7:40:12 GMT -5 Rose "Payola" Nylund said:

Idk, call me dumb or obtuse or whatever but I’m still confused about the whole situation and exactly what the problem is.

Many people assumed Mariah was automatically going #1 every Christmas and now they can’t handle the fact it’s not happening lol.

[After Minutes]

If Surround Sound enters the 2024 YE it'll be practically impossible for it not to he the best hit of the year

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2023 » / « 12 » / « 05 »

1(=) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer 71.62(-0.67)
2(=) Doja Cat - Paint The Town Red 71.16(-0.39) -
3(=) Miley Cyrus - Used To Be Young 62.06(+0.32)
4(=) SZA - Snooze 60.88(-0.29)
5(=) Tate McRae - greedy 55.98(+0.77)
6(+2) Tyla - Water 54.48(+1.08)
7(-1) Rema & Selena Gomez - Calm Down 53.84(-0.21)
8(-1) Jelly Roll - Need A Favor 53.84(-0.16)
9(=) Paul Russell - Lil Boo Thang 52.59(+0.13)
10(=) Jelly Roll - Save Me (with Lainey Wilson) 50.08(-0.49)

16(=) Nate Smith - World on Fire 40.50(+0.72)

20(+1) Jack Harlow - Lovin On Me 37.22(+1.22)

25(+1) Luke Bryan - But I Got A Beer In My Hand 33.27(+1.12)

-(-) Ozuna - Baccarat 3.50(+1.05) +

-(-) Venesti - No Es Normal f/Nacho & Maffio 2.14(+1.88) +

[Fat Ass Kelly Price]

Lambs may be a bit melodramatic, but the dismissive tone here from some is a little curious to me. I feel like most Lambs either expected or were ok with Brenda finally hitting number one. I think people found some observations curious (playlisting, etc). It’s a valid point of discussion. From a playlisting standpoint, Brenda also benefits from being an older song, so she gets placed on the Classic Xmas playlists that AIWFCIY does not. That could explain a difference where placement alone in a single playlist could not account for. Overall, I think it’s an interesting discussion point around the power of playlisting, particularly when it’s divorced from this individual example.

I don’t think anything nefarious happened, but I think it’s naive to believe Brenda’s record company didn’t see the midweek building chart and make a push to secure the #1.

[chartfreak]

People have made the point and it's valid that playlisting can be important. It obviously helped Mariah in the past, why does it matter that it's helping Brenda now. I agree and hope that they mix it up every year.

[wavey.]

[Caviar]

Slay!

[Push The Button]

Dec 5, 2023 20:25:02 GMT -5 wavey. said:

Her lead just keeps getting bigger. Crazy.

[Darkest Hour]

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