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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 24, 2003 14:09:47 GMT -5
Why is Christina releasing a Spanish album? It makes little sense to me. I remember when her first CD was out, she released a remix version of the album (not to mention re-released the first CD two more times with the radio remixes of 'Come On Over' and 'What A Girl Wants'), released a Christmas album and then released a Spanish album, all in the span of maybe two years. Talk about milking it for all she's worth. Luckily, she came out with 'Stripped' and that kinda saved her and put her in a higher light, in my opinion. But doing another Spanish album is a step backwards and it makes no sense to me. It's obvious she's doing it to extend her fanbase and make more money unless she was leaving English music altogether.
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Post by radiorules on Oct 24, 2003 14:17:29 GMT -5
Mike, please why don't you be quiet for a second? Latin Music has been dead for about 2 years now, if Christina was making an LP to make more fans, then she should be doing a Remix CD or a Hip Hop CD or a Live CD or something. Christina is doing her next spanish LP because of the fact that she has many spanish fans who haven't had an album from her in 3 years. Christina is taken seriously as a hispanic artist because her Latin Album did win a Grammy. Why aren't you accusing Shakira for only making an English Album just to make more fans and cash in? Very silly on your part in my opinion.
Oh, and there was never a remix version of "Christina Aguilera".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2003 14:26:13 GMT -5
I don't think it matters if the latin boom is over or not. The fans will buy it.
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Post by radiorules on Oct 24, 2003 14:38:29 GMT -5
Okay but then if it's just an album to make a few bucks off of then why doesn't she release a Live Album or Remix Album which wil probably ending up selling A LOT More than the spanish album?
Her last spanish CD peaked at #26 on the Billboard Charts, a Remix CD or a Live Album would probably go top ten.
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Post by ListenToMe on Oct 24, 2003 16:00:31 GMT -5
I think it's great that Christina is releasing a second Spanish album. It shows that she takes that part of her career very seriously and didn't release "Mi Reflejo" just to cash in on the Latin explosion. And she is also a major force in the Latin market, "Mi Reflejo" did afterall spend 19 weeks at #1 on the BB Latin album chart and win a Grammy!
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 24, 2003 20:17:46 GMT -5
I think it's great that Christina is releasing a second Spanish album. It shows that she takes that part of her career very seriously and didn't release "Mi Reflejo" just to cash in on the Latin explosion. You're probably right on that part though. That's probably one of the few good things on her part that I see out of this.
Christina's "remix" CD was probably an EP or something. I don't know but it contained a bunch of songs from her first CD that were remixed. I think Christina and/or her label were definately cashing in for the first few years of her career with the Xmas CD, re-issues of her album, remix CD, Spanish CD AND that 'Just Be Free' thing, but like I said, I do think she has gotton more credible, at least in my opinion, since she released 'Stripped'. I'm not too keen on this Spanish CD thing though, I dunno why.
BTW, here's the tracklisting for her remix CD, which is a bonus disc in the release of her debut album.
1. Genie in a Bottle [Flvio Vs. Mad Boris Mix] 2. What a Girl Wants [Eddie Arroyo Dance Radio Edit] 3. I Turn to You [Thunderpuss Remix] 4. Genio Atrapado [Remix] 5. Don't Make Me Love You (Til I'm Ready) 6. Come on Over (All I Want Is You) [Radio Version]
Note that it's an Australian import so maybe it shouldn't count for us here in North America.
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Post by radiorules on Oct 24, 2003 21:22:41 GMT -5
That remix CD was an import, it was never released here in the states. And that "Just Be Free" CD was releasd without RCA and Christina's permission.
But like Christina has said many times, she was over worked straight into the hospital on her first album. If it was up to Christina she probably would've waited longer to release both the Spanish LP and the Christmas LP. That's why this time around you didn't see any remix singles or side projects, because she took control.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Oct 24, 2003 22:58:56 GMT -5
Oh yeah, Christina doesn't give a FLYIN' FU(K about what her psyco-pathic stalkers think especially you!!! Sometimes the truth hurts! This s**t is horrible that's why its not charting now. Listen sweetie: You and yo mama can kiss Miss Christina's Grammy Award-winning A-S-S!!!
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Post by HER MINAJesty on Oct 25, 2003 0:34:19 GMT -5
I love Christina so much.
I will buy her next Spanish album, along with every album she releases from now until she hangs those golden vocal chords up (which I hope never happens, lol...I hope she's 65 and still a legend and singing and certain events).
I really love her as an artist, and I love Stripped. Im actually getting depressed now that it's over, and we have to wait another 2 years for her next English album. I really hope the wait isn't that long. She is my favourite artist today, and it really pains me to have to wait so long for her albums.
But if the next album is as good as Stripped, then there is no room to complain about the wait, because it will have been well worth it.
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Post by HER MINAJesty on Oct 25, 2003 0:40:08 GMT -5
Last night I was listening to WKSE Buffalo Kiss 98.5, CHR/Pop, and their Battle of the New Songs.
It was the Champion Kelis "Milkshake" going for her 2nd win in a row vs. Christina "The Voice Within".
Christina won by 75% of the vote.
I tuned in for tonight's edition, and it was Christina vs. Jay-Z's new single, "Change Clothes & Go", featuring Pharrell.
Jay-Z won by 56% of the vote.
Oh well...I thought it would win more than once, but I wasn't even expecting it to win vs. Kelis, so, that was good to see in itself. And I thought that was a good sign. 75% against a pretty good urban song. Christina does have a solid fanbase, and she is a household name that will get the benefit of the doubt more often than not.
but just kind of a letdown, after that surprise win, only to lose the next night.
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Post by Control on Oct 25, 2003 3:15:44 GMT -5
I'm glad about Christina continuing her career recording in Spanish. I love Mi Reflejo, much more than the debut album, and I'm very happy she'll be releasing more Spanish material. Plus I think it's also a good thing as far as image and credibility as an artist, not a negative at all.
If Christina would have never recorded in Spanish again after Mi Reflejo, then it would have been assumed that she simply did it to cash in, that she didn't honestly care about her Latin heritage, but now that it's definite that she'll continue a Spanish recording career in addition to English, it helps to show that she does care and that she's doing it for the right reasons.
As for all the reissues and releases, that's basically just another example of how she was so controled in the beginning. The reissues I don't think are too bad, they released remixes for two singles, so I can see why they would want to add them to the album, and that way new people buying the album would have the versions they knew that were being promoted. And as it was mentioned, there wasn't exactly a remix album, it was a special edition of the debut with a bonus disc, and it was only released internationally, Japan had a similar release titled Remix Plus, but it was the same thing, just all on one disc.. and Just Be Free was an unauthorized release, so not much could be done about that.
But as for the Spanish and Christmas albums, I also think they were too much too soon. Just as she expresses in "Fighter," her management were definitely cashing in on her and were working her into the ground. She was forced to record both Mi Reflejo and My Kind Of Christmas at the same time, and while she was on tour no less. But thankfully she got out of that situation and took time to experience some life before releasing Stripped.
So, I can't wait for the new Spanish album, and then I expect another break before the next English album. Maybe not as long as it took for Stripped, but still some time before it comes.
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Post by Sean on Oct 25, 2003 3:40:56 GMT -5
Sheesh, people will complain about anything Christina does! If she releases an english follow-up soon, people will say she's cashing in on "Stripped". If she releases a spanish album people say she's cashing in. If she waits another few years people will say she's lazy and needs to hurry up!
I love the idea of releasing another Spanish album. Despite not understanding a word of it, I like "Mi Reflejo" more than "Stripped" and would love for her to do some more spanish stuff. If she were truly cashing in she'd rush another english album or like was said, do a live or remix album. The only people who are going to buy a new spanish album are die-hard fans, people that enjoyed her last spanish album (like me), or spanish speaking people. She'd have a better shot at getting more sales and becoming a bigger 'music star' doing other things. Also, as was said... if she never did another spanish album it'd just make people think the first one was to cash in on the latin boom.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 25, 2003 7:29:26 GMT -5
Listen sweetie: You and yo mama can kiss Miss Christina's Grammy Award-winning A-S-S!!! You need get a grip on reality and seek the help of the best psychiatrist you can find. Everyone has a flop every now and then. This is Christina's (biggest ever). LOL! This music is terrible and her body is all wrong in the video. Just because me & my mom don't like her song is no reason to get upset. I'm sure Christina will respect an objective honest opinion rather than the opinion of some crazed lunatic like you. As far as she's concerned all her lunatic stalker people (like yourself) can kiss her award winning A-S-S!!! Its ok to be a fan but you are rediculous and ignorant!
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Post by Evergreen on Oct 25, 2003 8:54:05 GMT -5
I'm probably one of the biggest Christina fans on the board, and personally, I won't be buying Christina's next Spanish album. I don't understand the language, so it would be silly for me to buy it, that's just me though.
As for this being the last single, I think that's weird. I heard it was the last video, I didn't read the article talking about it being the last single. I'm 100% sure that will change if "The Voice Within" goes top ten. No way RCA will end an album still producing top 10 pop hits.
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Post by j on Oct 25, 2003 9:50:56 GMT -5
I'm sure Christina will respect an objective honest opinion rather than the opinion of some crazed lunatic like you. As far as she's concerned all her lunatic stalker people (like yourself) can kiss her award winning A-S-S!!! That's kinda true. Why would an artist care about what her crazed fans think since they'll love every single thing she releases anyway? Maybe occassionally throw them a bone for being so loyal. However, if the artist intends to survive in the competitive music industry, she needs to reach out to more people. Even if she doesn't, from an artistic point of view, I'm sure she'd feel more fulfilled if more people were to appreciate her music. Carson Daly played the song on Total Request Live.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 25, 2003 10:47:13 GMT -5
I don't understand the language, so it would be silly for me to buy it, that's just me though.
I dont understand it either, but I could listen for hours to Christina singing in Spanish-its her most beautiful vocalist moments. But then again, I also listen to Shakira (the spanish stuff) as well as some french stuff (without knowing either language)
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Post by Joe1240 on Oct 25, 2003 14:12:40 GMT -5
It is great for Christina to continue her career in the Latin Music Industry. She will succeed well. Mi Reflejo did very well on the Latin Charts. I will be sure to buy the followup to her first album. This will help her career in the long run.
Mi Reflejo was NOT a cash in on the Latin Music Trend when it came out. She was talking making one EVEN during the promotion for her self-titled debut album. She is doing it to help her career and she enjoys making these albums.
The Remixes and reissues were her idea. She said herself didn't like the original versions of WAGW and COOB. She called them too poppy at the time.They after all her idea. The remixes were added so that fans who wanted them could get easily. She wanted the album to be her way and this was the closer way of doing it at that time. The Remix album was released overseas only.It is not a bad thing at all. Japan and Austraila both had them released. Just Be Free is not a official release at all. There is even a note in it when you buy the cd.
The Spanish and Christmas album were done for the fans,of course she didn't expect them to be top sellers. She isn't in the music industry for that. I don't really consider them cashing in at all. But she was worked up at the time of the releases and got rid of her manager at the time Steve Kurtz.
But I can't wait for her next albums and the break should be shorter than it was for Stripped.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Oct 25, 2003 17:58:01 GMT -5
You need get a grip on reality and seek the help of the best psychiatrist you can find. Everyone has a flop every now and then. This is Christina's (biggest ever). LOL! This music is terrible and her body is all wrong in the video. Just because me & my mom don't like her song is no reason to get upset. I'm sure Christina will respect an objective honest opinion rather than the opinion of some crazed lunatic like you. As far as she's concerned all her lunatic stalker people (like yourself) can kiss her award winning A-S-S!!! Its ok to be a fan but you are rediculous and ignorant! Show me a person who does not like Christina's latest single and I'll show you a uniquely barren, soulless subhuman monster. Show me a person who does not like "The Voice Within" and I'll show you the kind of person who would bury a kitten up to its head and then run over it with a lawn mower. What kind of person does not like "The Voice Within?" The answer is simple: no sort of human being at all. Clearly you and your mother are the ones who need psychiatric help!
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 25, 2003 18:06:45 GMT -5
Show me a person who does not like Christina's latest single and I'll show you a uniquely barren, soulless subhuman monster. Show me a person who does not like "The Voice Within" and I'll show you the kind of person who would bury a kitten up to its head and then run over it with a lawn mower. What kind of person does not like "The Voice Within?" The answer is simple: no sort of human being at all. Clearly you and your mother are the ones who need psychiatric help! Spoken like a true psyco-path!
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Oct 25, 2003 18:10:26 GMT -5
You both sound like psychopaths.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 25, 2003 18:32:11 GMT -5
buddy i just commented on how I didnt like the song that its not going to chart there was no reason for him to get upset. Dont you know when to stay out of it?
You all have no problem leting others know when you dont like a song and I dont either! This song sucks and so does Christina! I hate her voice. I hate her attitude. I hate her album! And I especially HATE Christina Aguilera fans!!!!!
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Post by Sean on Oct 25, 2003 18:34:18 GMT -5
You both sound like psychopaths. :o That is so true!
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 25, 2003 18:37:59 GMT -5
Sean you all have no trouble letting me know when you all dont like a song I should be afforded the same right to hate a song without someone making comments about my mom. So what if me and her agree that we dont like a song. Its not the first time and it certainly wont be the last.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2003 19:04:44 GMT -5
If you guys can't respect eachother's opinions and move on from this senseless bickering, I don't see a reason for this topic to continue to be open for discussion. Please be accepting of others's opinions.
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Post by Control on Oct 25, 2003 21:37:59 GMT -5
Yes, please quit it with the immaturity and let a Christina thread be able to continue for once.
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Post by Rob64 on Oct 25, 2003 22:19:34 GMT -5
Luckie Starchild, 99.9% of the people i know (in real life) wouldn't be caught dead listening to a song like this. I don't know how you can say nobody hates this song
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Post by j on Oct 26, 2003 0:18:05 GMT -5
Luckie Starchild, 99.9% of the people i know (in real life) wouldn't be caught dead listening to a song like this. I don't know how you can say nobody hates this song I agree, but his imagery skills are good tho. Running over a kitten buried up to its head with a lawn mower... ewww :o but haha.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2003 21:45:49 GMT -5
It's #82 and +180 at pop right now. It goes for adds on Tuesday, so it's not bad, but we'll see what happens.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 26, 2003 22:16:03 GMT -5
Mi Reflejo was NOT a cash in on the Latin Music Trend when it came out. She was talking making one EVEN during the promotion for her self-titled debut album. She is doing it to help her career and she enjoys making these albums. The Remixes and reissues were her idea. She said herself didn't like the original versions of WAGW and COOB. She called them too poppy at the time.They after all her idea. The remixes were added so that fans who wanted them could get easily. She wanted the album to be her way and this was the closer way of doing it at that time. The Remix album was released overseas only.It is not a bad thing at all. Japan and Austraila both had them released. Just Be Free is not a official release at all. There is even a note in it when you buy the cd. Wasn't her debut CD and everything she said in interviews during the promotion of the first CD fake? Isn't that what the whole 'Stripped' project was all about?!
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Oct 26, 2003 22:17:54 GMT -5
What kind of person does not like "The Voice Within?" The answer is simple: no sort of human being at all. That makes absolutely no sense! Maybe some people don't like that sort of music or doesn't like Christina's voice? What kind of person would like 'Dirrty'? A soulless human being that uses women as objects for sexual pleasure!
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