Kelly Clarkson 'Never Again' (Now on iTunes!)

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

That and there's no way it will have sold that many copies worldwide a month before release date. lol. I think it was probably either a joke or someone forgot to edit the info under that album when they copied/pasted the stuff from 'Breakaway'.

[carriefan0209]

themaxonline said:

Some of you people are looking WAY too much into this whole topic and situation and all of the little sidestories that are going with it. Go outside, take a breather for a few hours and then come back in and resume.

great idea!

[K.]

orchbellzbab said:

i am hoping Hole or Maybe becomes the next single
it looks like RCA is fighting for one minute because it is the most radio friendly >:O

(im new... i post on the KCE a lot)

It might be better if the one RCA wants wins this time around. At least we know they'll support it and if it IS the most radio-friendly, it'll silence some of the flop buzz. It's not like she isn't going to get more singles after this.

[missclarkson]

orchbellzbab said:

i am hoping Hole or Maybe becomes the next single
it looks like RCA is fighting for one minute because it is the most radio friendly >:O

(im new... i post on the KCE a lot)

i cant believe this comment. we havent even heard HOLE yet lol .. and only the live version of maybe ...
RCA is fighting for ONE MINUTE? source?
it would be wise to release the most radio friendly stuff indeed.

[missclarkson]

oldskool2 said:

you people are funny.....they label invested money into this era and wouldn't do anything to hurt it's success. All record labels are in the red and wouldn't just throw money away like that since they have to answer to the shareholders. this conspiracy theories are all a load of crap....Clive doesn't own RCA

i think it's convinient for most kelly fans to blame NA failure on RCA. cuz in their eyes kelly can do no wrong and will go to #1 everytime, without lookin at the fact how good/bad of single NA is.

[pyrates]

Ugh, looking at that bullet is depressing. I really don't think this song has much more life to it on radio. I love the song, but it's too much of a grower for most people to become a hit on radio, IMO.

Well on to the next single!!

[audiogarden]

pyrates, that is my major gripe with pop radio. I tend to like the 'growers' the best. I get tired very quickly of the catchy stuff.

[kellyfan1232]

UUR and Stupid Girls was a grower for me.

BOY i think was also one.

[thedoctorluke]

KELLY CLARKSON Never Again -127

I can't believe it... I thought it would do better than this. Hopefully her next single will be more radio friendly. Good songs and radio friendly don't always meet....

[SILENCE]

I can't believe it... I thought it would do better than this.

sorry dr.luke but I remember your predictions of total failure for this song (or was that wishes for total failure?) so excuse me when I give you a when you say "you thought it would do better than this.

according to radio & Records she's up to #20 and though her bullet is only +66 she's still in the positive and moved up two spots on their chart.

Good songs and radio friendly don't always meet....

as evidenced by some of the crap currently at the top of the charts on radio right now....

Personally I hope NONE of her songs are "radio friendly" if radio friendly means crap like Glamorous, GF, Sweet Escape, I'm Hot, and a myraid of other brainless crap that's filling the airwaves right now.....

personally, I barely listen to radio, only on the drive to and from work, so IMO as long as Kelly's happy with the songs and they allow her to grow artistically who cares. She's already had an album that had 5 singles released that went top 10 (several that went to #1 on one chart or another and multiple for a couple) and sold almost 6 million in the US and 11 million world wide....that's something that most artists only dream of doing, so for me if Kelly just wanted to do music that fulfills her as an artist from now on, I'd still be a fan and I'd still go see her in concert and I'd still buy her CDs.

[justfloating]

^did you not even read his post? That's so ignorant for you to attack him as always and try to stir up drama. Go back and read it and see how you made a complete fool of yourself. Its just immaturity. So grow up. We are discussing the song, we all are. That includes more than friends, its people so get used to it.

[doodlebug]

More and more interesting each day to sit back and watch what is happening and being said.

[Focus]

From EMI Music Pub.

Be Still – Kelly Clarkson, Aben Eubanks

Can I Have a Kiss – Kelly Clarkson, Jimmy Messer, Dwight Baker

Chivas – Kelly Clarkson, Jimmy Messer

Don’t Waste Your Time – Writer Unknown, Kelly Clarkson, Jimmy Messer

Haunted - Kelly Clarkson, Jimmy Messer, Jason Halbert

Hole - Kelly Clarkson, David Kahne, Jimmy Messer, Dwight Baker

How I Feel - Kelly Clarkson, David Kahne, Jimmy Messer, Dwight Baker

Irvine - Kelly Clarkson, Aben Eubanks

Judas - Kelly Clarkson, David Kahne, Jimmy Messer, Dwight Baker

Maybe - Kelly Clarkson, Jimmy Messer, Aben Eubanks

Never Again – Kelly Clarkson, Jimmy Messer

One Minute – Kara DioGuardi, Chantal Kreviazuk, Kelly Clarkson

Sober – Kelly Clarkson, Jimmy Messer, Aben Eubanks, Calamity McEntire

Yeah - Writer Unknown, Kelly Clarkson, Jimmy Messer
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I wonder what that means or why they use that..Writer Unknown

Anybody want a laugh. An interview with Kelly on Sirius and censored Kelly songs...really funny, well I think it's really funny.
www.sendspace.com/file/3xwa3c

[musicfreak72]

Guys don't worry about Kelly . This album will be multi platinum before it's all said and done .Don't panic just because radio isn't into it all that much right now . I for one love the song . IMO it's the best single she's ever had . I know a lot will disagree with me on that . When I heard it I was like "hell yeah !!" Rock on Kelly . She's making the music she wants to make , and I respect her for it .

[realnewlight]

I really think they should have kept the July release date, and rush released a second single. At this rate, its gonna be tough for NA to have over 15 million total audience impressions by the time the album comes out..it could still have a big first week, but the 2nd, and 3rd, etc. are gonna be rough if they dont do something

And I know a lot of you dont care about the commercial success of this album, and thats cool. But you guys need to look at reality too...when an album is commercially successful it affords the artist more opportunities for artistic expresion (more videos, etc)..and probably most importantly, it gives them more weight and credability when fighting for what they want with record labels in the future.

The reason that Kelly was in the end able to put out exactly the album she wanted to this time around, even though it took a lot of fighting and there were many issues, is because of how succesful Breakaway was. If My December ends up being a commercial failure...she will not have the same weight, and it is very possible that no matter how much she fights for she wants on the next album, RCA will just not let her put out until they are happy with it...in the end, this is a business for them, and they do not want to lose money by pooring their money into projects that are not profitable for them.

So i understand, and respect you guys opinion that commercial success is not what is important...but in the end, it does matter in some very important ways.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Chantal Kreviazuk co-wrote 'One Minute'? Awesome! I hope that is the next single. lol

Meanwhile, her single is flopping over on Hot AC. :(

[Focus]

themaxonline said:

Chantal Kreviazuk co-wrote 'One Minute'? Awesome! I hope that is the next single. lol

Meanwhile, her single is flopping over on Hot AC. :(

Kelly's?

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Chantal's.

[Focus]

I wondered for a second..lol.

That's a shame about Chantal's song. I love it. What the hell's wrong with radio when they won't play a great song like that. She looks gorgeous in the video too. Oh well. I hope it picks up.

[4 Minutes to be a Legend]

So i don't understand what's going on...are people finally admitting that this flopped or are they trying to put a positive twist to it? No matter how you try to make it seem, this single is by far the biggest flop frist single released by an established Female artist since 'Loverboy'.

I don't care if people say 'Loverboy' peaked at #2 and 'Never Again' peaked at #8 on the Hot 100 so they are hits. That doesn't mean anything. Spending one week in the top ten just because of hype and then falling really fast and getting weak airplay equals a flop. First singles by established female artists flopping has been a hot trend since 'Dirrty'. I think with Mariah people were surprised that it happened but it wasn't really shocking because she had been around for a long time. Christina Aguilera was really the first one to start the 'hot mess flop first single' trend. When it happened to 'Dirrty' people were shocked, but then 'Me Against the Music' 'Don't Tell Me' 'Deja Vu' 'It's Like That' 'Wind It Up' 'Trouble' and so many others flopped, it became a trend to have a flop first single. But things began changing last year when 'Promiscious' 'Ain't No Other Man' and now 'Girlfriend' became big hits. So i think people expected 'Never Again' to go into that route because the 1st single flopping thing was kind of not happening anymore. But i guess not.

[Jennifa]

Crustina aint start no trend. What about Britneys Slave? That was a first single flop.

[cg]

You know - I think that most people base their expectations and opinions on the particular song - not on the trends of previous artists - but that is just me.

[justfloating]

thats not just you, thats me too.

[realnewlight]

legendtina1 said:

So i don't understand what's going on...are people finally admitting that this flopped or are they trying to put a positive twist to it? No matter how you try to make it seem, this single is by far the biggest flop frist single released by an established Female artist since 'Loverboy'.

I don't care if people say 'Loverboy' peaked at #2 and 'Never Again' peaked at #8 on the Hot 100 so they are hits. That doesn't mean anything. Spending one week in the top ten just because of hype and then falling really fast and getting weak airplay equals a flop. First singles by established female artists flopping has been a hot trend since 'Dirrty'. I think with Mariah people were surprised that it happened but it wasn't really shocking because she had been around for a long time. Christina Aguilera was really the first one to start the 'hot mess flop first single' trend. When it happened to 'Dirrty' people were shocked, but then 'Me Against the Music' 'Don't Tell Me' 'Deja Vu' 'It's Like That' 'Wind It Up' 'Trouble' and so many others flopped, it became a trend to have a flop first single. But things began changing last year when 'Promiscious' 'Ain't No Other Man' and now 'Girlfriend' became big hits. So i think people expected 'Never Again' to go into that route because the 1st single flopping thing was kind of not happening anymore. But i guess not.

Your timeline is all messed up though, lol...De Ja Vu and Wind It Up came after Promiscious and Aint No Other Man.

[4 Minutes to be a Legend]

jennifer said:

Crustina aint start no trend. What about Britneys Slave? That was a first single flop.

Britney wasn't really a radio favorite to have a FLOP first single. It wasn't shocking at all. At that point in her career she really didn't need radio at all. 'Dirrty' flopping was by far more shocking. And the reason why i including 'Me Against the Music' on this list was because it had Madonna on it and it was shocking that it didn't go top ten.

[justfloating]

yea, but all of your facts are out of order. Its just random songs listed not even in the order they came out and you are trying to make logic from it.

[carriefan0209]

myreflection said:

I can't believe it... I thought it would do better than this.

sorry dr.luke but I remember your predictions of total failure for this song (or was that wishes for total failure?) so excuse me when I give you a when you say "you thought it would do better than this.

according to radio & Records she's up to #20 and though her bullet is only +66 she's still in the positive and moved up two spots on their chart.

will u please stop trying to start things? do u not read what the posters say and only look at who is posting them? sheesh.

[4 Minutes to be a Legend]

carriefan0209 said:

myreflection said:

sorry dr.luke but I remember your predictions of total failure for this song (or was that wishes for total failure?) so excuse me when I give you a when you say "you thought it would do better than this.

according to radio & Records she's up to #20 and though her bullet is only +66 she's still in the positive and moved up two spots on their chart.

will u please stop trying to start things? do u not read what the posters say and only look at who is posting them? sheesh.

But Dr. Luke has a point. When someone says they think a first single by a female artist who prior to this had 5 TOP 5 radio hits off her last album, when they say they think it will flop...that could mean a peak anywhere from #11 to #20. But peaking outside the Top 20...that's even worse! No one expected this...even the people who predicted it would flop. I predicted it would flop but i predicted around #15...not this. I think that's what he means.

[justfloating]

you are so right. all hail the queen.

[carriefan0209]

legendtina1 said:

carriefan0209 said:

will u please stop trying to start things? do u not read what the posters say and only look at who is posting them? sheesh.

But Dr. Luke has a point. When someone says they think a first single by a female artist who prior to this had 5 TOP 5 radio hits off her last album, when they say they think it will flop...that could mean a peak anywhere from #11 to #20. But peaking outside the Top 20...that's even worse! No one expected this...even the people who predicted it would flop. I predicted it would flop but i predicted around #15...not this. I think that's what he means.

i do too! thats why i was yelling at myreflection lol. she was scoffin at him..