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Post by singingsparrow on Jun 29, 2010 2:06:42 GMT -5
I've been saying since Eminem went on hiatus that, because of his behemoth name recognition, that Eminem could easily bounce back and conquer both the album and singles charts again.
I really believe Eminem is to the music business what Rush Limbaugh is to talk radio. Both are intensely divisive figures who have and continue to rile sizable constituencies, but are also exceptionally gifted as communicators; thus have both come defining voices in our media.
It is exactly because Eminem is an extraordinarily gifted communicator why he continues to rack up figures like these in spite of his recent diminished airplay and ubiquity in the tabloids and national news cycles. And as much as I agree with some of the criticism directed toward "Recovery" in that there isn't as much depth to the lyrics as on "The Marshall Mathers LP" or "The Eminem Show", I have to say I think the fact that the controversy and media attention surrounding the release of his first two major albums made for a particular surreal time in the music industry, and Eminem benefited from that more than anything, thus, the fact this sort of media circus will never repeat itself in nearly the same way inevitably will make anything Eminem releases from here on out feel inferior when sized up to his earlier work..............and the fact remains it's Eminem's gift of delivery, communication and HOW he describes so much lyrically that both made him the champion he is now, as well as seeing to it he retains that title.
Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by PDC1987 on Jun 29, 2010 2:14:51 GMT -5
You could have saved yourself some time and simply said he's still big because he made a legitimate cultural AND musical impact earlier in his career.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2010 3:57:20 GMT -5
You could have saved yourself some time and simply said he's still big because he made a legitimate cultural AND musical impact earlier in his career. Reading's hard, isn't it?
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jun 29, 2010 7:15:10 GMT -5
I thought everything you said was spot-on, Hibithcuth. (see what I did there?) Thank you.
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Post by slicknickshady on Jun 29, 2010 12:01:06 GMT -5
You could have saved yourself some time and simply said he's still big because he made a legitimate cultural AND musical impact earlier in his career. Reading's hard, isn't it? Good one.
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Post by jgizzle89 on Jun 29, 2010 15:09:35 GMT -5
HITS finals are in. Em hit 753k
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Post by Choco on Jun 29, 2010 15:10:56 GMT -5
CHART DATE: 06/28/2010 LAST UPDATE: 06/29/2010 12:45:31 NOW IN: FINAL
LW TW artist / album label power index % change -- 1 EMINEM SHADY/AFTERMATH/INT 753,870 -- RECOVERY 1 2 DRAKE YM/CASH MONEY/UNIV MOTOWN 156,451 -66% THANK ME LATER -- 3 MILEY CYRUS HOLLYWOOD 106,553 -- CAN'T BE TAMED -- 4 OZZY OSBOURNE EPIC 77,828 -- SCREAM 4 5 NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC 34 CAPITOL/EMI 55,884 -35% VARIOUS ARTISTS -- 6 THE ROOTS DEF JAM/IDJ 49,320 -- HOW I GOT OVER 5 7 JACK JOHNSON BRUSHFIRE/UNIV REPUBLIC 44,282 -32% TO THE SEA 7 8 JUSTIN BIEBER ISLAND/IDJMG 43,222 -8% MY WORLD 2.0 6 9 TWILIGHT SAGA: ECLIPSE CHOP SHOP/ATLANTIC 39,158 -24% SOUNDTRACK 3 10 SARAH MCLACHLAN ARISTA/RMG 38,010 -58% LAWS OF ILLUSION 9 11 LADY ANTEBELLUM CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 32,725 -18% NEED YOU NOW 2 12 TOM PETTY & THE HEARTBREAKERS REPRISE 29,428 -73% MOJO -- 13 KEITH SWEAT KEDAR ENTERAINMENT 26,561 -- RIDIN' SOLO 13 14 USHER LAFACE/JLG 24,325 -16% RAYMOND VS. RAYMOND -- 15 JARON & THE LONG ROAD TO LOVE JW/BIG MACHINE/UNIV REPUB 23,941 -- GETTING DRESSED IN THE DARK 15 16 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 23,668 -15% FAME 12 17 ZAC BROWN BAND ATLANTIC 21,451 -32% FOUNDATION 8 18 CAROLE KING & JAMES TAYLOR HEAR MUSIC 20,531 -49% LIVE AT THE TROUBADOUR 10 19 GLEE CAST COLUMBIA 20,411 -47% JOURNEY TO REGIONALS 11 20 CHRISTINA AGUILERA RCA/RMG 19,307 -47% BIONIC 14 21 GLEE CAST COLUMBIA 19,028 -33% GLEE: THE MUSIC, VOL. 3 SHOWSTOP 20 22 BLACK EYED PEAS INTERSCOPE 16,444 -11% E.N.D. (ENERGY NEVER DIES) 22 23 KE$HA KEMOSABE/RCA/RMG 15,438 -7% ANIMAL -- 24 CYNDI LAUPER DOWNTOWN 15,353 -- MEMPHIS BLUES 17 25 MIRANDA LAMBERT COLUMBIA NASHVILLE 15,132 -19% REVOLUTION 19 26 B.O.B. ATLANTIC 14,648 -21% ADVENTURES OF BOBBY RAY 23 27 CARRIE UNDERWOOD 19/ARISTA NASHVILLE 13,186 -19% PLAY ON 21 28 DIERKS BENTLEY CAPITOL NASHVILLE/EMI 13,013 -28% UP ON THE RIDGE 28 29 JUSTIN BIEBER ISLAND/IDJMG 12,353 -10% MY WORLD 27 30 LADY GAGA INTERSCOPE 12,274 -13% FAME MONSTER (EP) 30 31 BLACK KEYS NONESUCH 11,949 -6% BROTHERS 26 32 GODSMACK UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 11,710 -20% THE ORACLE 34 33 ALICIA KEYS J RECORDS/RMG 11,706 0% ELEMENT OF FREEDOM 25 34 NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL MUSIC 33 CAPITOL/EMI 11,653 -21% VARIOUS ARTISTS -- 35 MACY GRAY CONCORD 11,463 -- SELLOUT 31 36 MICHAEL BUBLE REPRISE 10,606 -16% CRAZY LOVE -- 37 SIA JIVE/RED 10,514 -- WE ARE BORN 32 38 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER 10,282 -17% DARK HORSE -- 39 DANZIG EVILIVE/THE END 9,920 -- RED DETH SABAOTH 29 40 ROLLING STONES UME 9,828 -27% EXILE ON MAIN STREET 42 41 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 9,737 -2% FEARLESS 18 42 PLIES ATLANTIC 9,600 -49% GOON AFFILIATED 35 43 MARC ANTHONY SONY MUSIC LATIN 9,552 -16% ICONOS 36 44 NAS & DAMIAN MARLEY UNIVERSAL REPUBLIC 9,301 -17% DISTANT RELATIVES 33 45 JEWEL VALORY 9,017 -25% SWEET AND WILD 16 46 GASLIGHT ANTHEM SIDE ONE DUMMY 8,812 -67% AMERICAN SLANG 39 47 LUDACRIS DTP/DEF JAM/IDJ 8,631 -17% BATTLE OF THE SEXES 37 48 TRAIN COLUMBIA 8,515 -22% SAVE ME SAN FRANCISCO 24 49 AC/DC COLUMBIA 8,291 -45% IRON MAN 2 SOUNDTRACK 41 50 GLEE CAST COLUMBIA 8,015 -20% GLEE: THE MUSIC, VOL. 1
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Post by Choco on Jun 29, 2010 15:13:42 GMT -5
OMG Miley might sell less than Xtina. wow. This poster was right. Awesome numbers for Em. I expected a little more from Drake, but good #'s too. I just figured out that Twilight: Eclipse will be the first Twilight soundtrack to miss #1. They had a chance next week, because of the movie opening, but with Eminem now they don't have a chance, at all.
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Post by Cerbius on Jun 29, 2010 15:14:03 GMT -5
Dayum @ Eminem :O
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Post by galvanize on Jun 29, 2010 15:14:52 GMT -5
Sia too low. :'(
Great debut for Cyndi Lauper though! :o :o
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Jun 29, 2010 15:20:00 GMT -5
Smash it EM
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Post by jgizzle89 on Jun 29, 2010 15:21:38 GMT -5
im so glad em totally destroyed his previous album's 1st week sales. how often does that happen, especially in this sales climate? as much as this board is dominated by 'diva' conversations, it's clear that eminem is still killing all of them (and he doesn't need the christmas season and fans who don't know what a computer is -- susan boyle-- to do it)
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Post by singingsparrow on Jun 29, 2010 15:22:34 GMT -5
Though this week is certainly a great week for the music business as far as Eminem's numbers are concerned, it is still disconcerting to see that not a single album that didn't debut this week within the Top Fifty of the chart saw a net gain in sales from last week. Not ONE.
Alicia Keys at least broke even from last week (and MIGHT actually see a razor-thin gain from last week when Billboard adjusts its numbers) but beyond that every other non-debut album on the chart saw no net increase. That is, in itself, alarming.
Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jun 29, 2010 15:29:12 GMT -5
Though this week is certainly a great week for the music business as far as Eminem's numbers are concerned, it is still disconcerting to see that not a single album that didn't debut this week within the Top Fifty of the chart saw a net gain in sales from last week. Not ONE. Alicia Keys at least broke even from last week (and MIGHT actually see a razor-thin gain from last week when Billboard adjusts its numbers) but beyond that every other non-debut album on the chart saw no net increase. That is, in itself, alarming. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus You might find it a little less alarming if you consider that sales on last week's chart reflected gains for Fathers' Day, which typically favors heartland/corporate rock and country acts that play well among adult males (e.g., Zac Brown Band, Brooks & Dunn, Toby Keith and Alan Jackson). Next week's chart should see some boosts (or, in the case of Drake's album, a smaller loss) for urban and rhythmic acts featured on the BET Awards.
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Post by razmatazz007 on Jun 29, 2010 15:30:20 GMT -5
Great numbers for Recovery, was expecting to see Relapse in the top 50 as well...
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Post by popindustrialist on Jun 29, 2010 15:32:29 GMT -5
I've been saying since Eminem went on hiatus that, because of his behemoth name recognition, that Eminem could easily bounce back and conquer both the album and singles charts again. I really believe Eminem is to the music business what Rush Limbaugh is to talk radio. Both are intensely divisive figures I think it's the opposite of Limbaugh; Rush has extreme competition, every idiot with a ham radio is a talk radio screamer, but Eminem has a complete monopoly. He's the only white rapper with cred. He dosent have any actual competition for his audience.
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Post by singingsparrow on Jun 29, 2010 15:39:04 GMT -5
I've been saying since Eminem went on hiatus that, because of his behemoth name recognition, that Eminem could easily bounce back and conquer both the album and singles charts again. I really believe Eminem is to the music business what Rush Limbaugh is to talk radio. Both are intensely divisive figures I think it's the opposite of Limbaugh; Rush has extreme competition, every idiot with a ham radio is a talk radio screamer, but Eminem has a complete monopoly. He's the only white rapper with cred. He dosent have any actual competition for his audience. Limbaugh's only sizable competition is Glenn Beck. Even so, Limbaugh has been around MUCH longer than Beck, it remains to be seen whether Beck's popularity is virtually almost correlative to the "Tea Party Movement" hype whereas Limbaugh has already proven his clout well before this new phenomenon, and STILL crushes all his other AM radio rivals. It's not even close. When you play word association with "Michael Savage", nothing comes to mind immediately to the average listener, whereas when you say "Rush Limbaugh", many things simultaneously flash in the listener's head at once. He's just THAT prominent. Both Limbaugh and Eminem are monopolies. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by singingsparrow on Jun 29, 2010 15:44:16 GMT -5
Though this week is certainly a great week for the music business as far as Eminem's numbers are concerned, it is still disconcerting to see that not a single album that didn't debut this week within the Top Fifty of the chart saw a net gain in sales from last week. Not ONE. Alicia Keys at least broke even from last week (and MIGHT actually see a razor-thin gain from last week when Billboard adjusts its numbers) but beyond that every other non-debut album on the chart saw no net increase. That is, in itself, alarming. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus You might find it a little less alarming if you consider that sales on last week's chart reflected gains for Fathers' Day, which typically favors heartland/corporate rock and country acts that play well among adult males (e.g., Zac Brown Band, Brooks & Dunn, Toby Keith and Alan Jackson). Next week's chart should see some boosts (or, in the case of Drake's album, a smaller loss) for urban and rhythmic acts featured on the BET Awards. Of the four artists you mentioned, the Zac Brown Band is the only one of them that is presently tearing up the sales charts. "American Ride" hasn't even gone Gold yet, Brooks & Dunn's last album was selling pitifully even before they announced going their separate ways, and Alan Jackson, though holding his own, is not selling spectacularly either. I really am not convinced Father's Day does all that much for the music industry. If it does, however, I'm inclined to think it's tried-and-true artists like Bruce Springsteen, Bob Seger and possibly the Dave Matthews Band that would most benefit. The problem is, neither of those artists have any new release in its infancy or middle stage of promotion. I do agree about the BET Awards providing an inevitable boost next week, however. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jun 29, 2010 15:46:19 GMT -5
Wow, Miley sold less than Christina if the numbers hold up. Both sold pretty bad-I expected Christina to sell crap though. I suppose Miley is making the transition though and seems dedicated to an "indie" or less visible musical presence.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jun 29, 2010 15:49:04 GMT -5
HITS numbers, as we know, sometimes differ from SoundScan, so it's possible a non-debut in the top 50 saw a small gain- but, nonetheless, album sales through last week were down 11% vs. the same time last year, so it's expected.
Sia's album looks like it sold roughly half of what the last album did in its first week (and that was her "big" success). She hasn't had any U.S. hits, so can't expect too much.
Cyndi Lauper's numbers are decent enough, I guess. Memphis Blues is her highest-charting album since 1986's True Colors.
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Post by sdot23 on Jun 29, 2010 15:49:17 GMT -5
Eminem....wow, still shocked that he pulled in that much.
Not bad for Drake but I thought he would have had a smaller drop.
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Post by kt1990 on Jun 29, 2010 15:51:03 GMT -5
IKR? :shakingandcrying: I hope it doesn't freefall next week. :'(
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Post by singingsparrow on Jun 29, 2010 15:52:50 GMT -5
Wow, Miley sold less than Christina if the numbers hold up. Both sold pretty bad-I expected Christina to sell crap though. I suppose Miley is making the transition though and seems dedicated to an "indie" or less visible musical presence. Like it or not, when you're a pop star with ubiquitous presence in the press, you're going to wind up a singles artist whether you like it or not. And with Cyrus, she has been much more successful than most of her contemporaries as of late because she's had some terrifically accessible singles that satisfy her traditional "Hannah Montana" audience but also appeal to some older demographics in that they have an air of maturity to them, which is most noted on "The Climb" and, to an extent, "Party in the USA". "Can't Be Tamed" is certainly by no means a flop, but it can still be suggested to be a disappointment all because it fell way short of the ridiculous threshold "Party in the USA" set. And all because of that, she has unfortunately been hemorrhaging momentum, and though she can certainly come back, it won't be easy as long as the press still defines her as some pop star making a bold move. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by chartslover on Jun 29, 2010 15:57:52 GMT -5
Keith Sweat did great! Better than what I expected. :)
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Post by slicknickshady on Jun 29, 2010 16:03:28 GMT -5
Yeah. Shocked Relapse didnt make Top 50 but i think last week is when that saw the gain for people getting ready for Recovery. I still bet it did around 8 K though.
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Post by rosemoor on Jun 29, 2010 16:10:20 GMT -5
-- 37 SIA JIVE/RED 10,514 -- WE ARE BORN
What a travesty. It's a brilliant album. Easily top5 in 2010 in my book.
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Post by popindustrialist on Jun 29, 2010 16:24:50 GMT -5
I think it's the opposite of Limbaugh; Rush has extreme competition, every idiot with a ham radio is a talk radio screamer, but Eminem has a complete monopoly. He's the only white rapper with cred. He dosent have any actual competition for his audience. Limbaugh's only sizable competition is Glenn Beck. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus Sean Hannity does double Beck's daily radio audience, 18 million to 9 million. There's about a million angry white conservative talk show hosts. The competition is unreal. Monopoly means no competition is even being offered. Eminem has a completely free lane.
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Post by popindustrialist on Jun 29, 2010 16:29:00 GMT -5
-- 3 MILEY CYRUS HOLLYWOOD 106,553 -- CAN'T BE TAMED
11 20 CHRISTINA AGUILERA RCA/RMG 19,307 -47% BIONIC
I will boldly predict that by the end of the year, Bionic will have outsold Can't Be Tamed.
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Post by Junkiex on Jun 29, 2010 16:31:18 GMT -5
-- 3 MILEY CYRUS HOLLYWOOD 106,553 -- CAN'T BE TAMED 11 20 CHRISTINA AGUILERA RCA/RMG 19,307 -47% BIONIC I will boldly predict that by the end of the year, Bionic Can't Be Tamed will have outsold Can't Be TamedBionic. Xtina has sold in three weeks what Mimi sold in one :'(. And imagine that Memoirs has been called a flop time after time... what does this make Bionic? :O :O @ Eminem. I think this will actually be the first album of his I will purchase. Great for Sarah!
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Post by musicrocks on Jun 29, 2010 16:33:03 GMT -5
I hope the numbers for Em goes up when Billboard does it's adjustments but I doubt it. Drake's HITS sales number was higher last week but you never know...
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