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Post by Spidey on Feb 5, 2013 16:32:04 GMT -5
Isn't April 1 the date the CD single is being released in the UK? I'm sure the Top 40 adds date will be sooner than April (or it will take off beforehand).
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Post by Au$tin on Feb 5, 2013 16:35:08 GMT -5
I figured this would be released here next since I saw it listed for a UK release on the same day. This will be a big smash for Miranda Cosgrove Taylor Swift!
"Red" needs to be released soon, though. It's the multi-format smash that this album has been missing. (Well, WANEGBT went top ten on country, but...)
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 5, 2013 16:37:04 GMT -5
I don't really care for this one very much. It's one of my least favorites on the album. I wish the new single had been Red to both formats.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2013 16:42:17 GMT -5
I wonder if this will be sent to country too. You don't follow country radio much I take it? Country radio wouldn't touch "22". It's not a country song. Taylor's place in the country industry would be severely harmed if she and her team released a song like "22" to country radio now. They barely got away with a country mix of WANEGBT.
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Post by Rocky on Feb 5, 2013 16:42:34 GMT -5
Seriously... "dress up like hipsters..." ? I need Red, I absolutely don't care for this.
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Post by Au$tin on Feb 5, 2013 16:43:02 GMT -5
Who's Taylor Swift anyway? Ew!
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Feb 5, 2013 16:45:43 GMT -5
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Post by slayZ on Feb 5, 2013 16:48:01 GMT -5
I think what's so great about this is that the whole "the only thing Taylor does is date and dump guys to write songs about them" topic is at its peak right now and releasing a (smash) song that's NOT about Boys to Pop radio, which is the biggest format there is, will shine light onto a different subject, which is about her...being young, carefree, and having fun, something she hasn't sung about before. People are getting tired of her singing about boys and this will give them a break. Aside from being an amazing single choice, the lyrics, while juvenile, serve its purpose and they were perfectly crafted to make an impact. People need to stop taking Taylor's music so seriously, SHE doesn't even take herself that seriously. The "hipster" line as well as other funny references in the song are just proof of her young sense of humor, something that most people aren't aware of and this might be an introduction.
I'm hoping the video is as fun and colorful as the song.
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Post by JamaicaFunkΒ² on Feb 5, 2013 16:58:22 GMT -5
Another bratty and immature pop song from Taylor Swift. YAAAAYYYYYY!!!!
I don't know about you, but I'm feelin 22.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 5, 2013 17:01:08 GMT -5
This is the one that sounds most like an Avril Lavigne song. Taylor is helping my girl up to a big comeback later this year!
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Post by Sir Benji on Feb 5, 2013 17:19:11 GMT -5
Twenty twoooo Oh hoooo.
I knew they would release this after "I Knew You Were Trouble." It's the perfect follow-up for Pop radio.
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Post by K. on Feb 5, 2013 17:23:44 GMT -5
22? Who does she think she is, Adele?
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Post by singingsparrow on Feb 5, 2013 17:29:25 GMT -5
I figured this would be released here next since I saw it listed for a UK release on the same day. This will be a big smash for Miranda Cosgrove Taylor Swift! "Red" needs to be released soon, though. It's the multi-format smash that this album has been missing. (Well, WANEGBT went top ten on country, but...) No It Didn't! ;) ........well, unless you're talking about the stupid new mongrel Hot Country Songs chart! Namaste, Noah Hibiscus Eaton
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Post by Au$tin on Feb 5, 2013 17:33:01 GMT -5
I figured this would be released here next since I saw it listed for a UK release on the same day. This will be a big smash for Miranda Cosgrove Taylor Swift! "Red" needs to be released soon, though. It's the multi-format smash that this album has been missing. (Well, WANEGBT went top ten on country, but...) .......well, unless you're talking about the stupid new mongrel Hot Country Songs chart! Yeah, that's what I was referring to. On Mediabse I think it got to #18 or something like that.
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Post by someguy on Feb 5, 2013 17:38:19 GMT -5
This was probably the best choice for pop, so it makes sense to come next. The follow-up will probably be a multi-format single.
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Post by singingsparrow on Feb 5, 2013 17:38:52 GMT -5
I think what's so great about this is that the whole "the only thing Taylor does is date and dump guys to write songs about them" topic is at its peak right now and releasing a (smash) song that's NOT about Boys to Pop radio, which is the biggest format there is, will shine light onto a different subject, which is about her...being young, careless, free and having fun, something she hasn't sung about before. People are getting tired of her singing about boys and this will give them a break. Aside from being an amazing single choice, the lyrics, while juvenile, serve its purpose and they were perfectly crafted to make an impact. People need to stop taking Taylor's music so seriously, SHE doesn't even take herself that seriously. The "hipster" line as well as other funny references in the song are just proof of her young sense of humor, something that most people aren't aware of and this might be an introduction. I'm hoping the video is as fun and colorful as the song. You seriously expect me to believe you when you argue that she does NOT take herself seriously? If anything, I consider Swift one of the most self-serious artists on both Mainstream Top 40 and Country airwaves. Have you been following the headlines closely? She is under great distress, and much of the source of that distress stems NOT from her latest break-up with Styles, but with the way her image has soured publicly, especially Tina Fey's cracks at her. From an instant gratification standpoint, sure. "22" is the best follow-up without doubt. But "22" will prove to do more harm than good in the longer term for her in that it will only sinew the immature, promiscuous, serial dater image that has overshadowed much of her artistry this time around. Namaste, Noah Hibiscus Eaton
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Post by Au$tin on Feb 5, 2013 17:53:40 GMT -5
^I'm sorry, but what? "22" does not show any promiscuity or "serial dater" in it at all. It's a fun song about feeling young with no connection with any type of relationship. You can be fun and carefree in a song while still thinking about your image. In fact, she's never released a single that didn't talk about a relationship (aside from "Eyes Open"). If anything, the context of the song will IMPROVE her image!
The sound, though, isn't a step forward since it sounds like it comes straight from Let Go, but whatever.
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Post by Keelzit on Feb 5, 2013 17:56:16 GMT -5
How can a future massive #1 single harm her image? And if it's not released to country radio then there's no way the country audience will even know of its existance.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Feb 5, 2013 18:02:08 GMT -5
I wasn't aware Taylor Swift's image was in jeopardy because she was dating men. I thought she always did that?
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Post by singingsparrow on Feb 5, 2013 18:09:43 GMT -5
^I'm sorry, but what? "22" does not show any promiscuity or "serial dater" in it at all. It's a fun song about feeling young with no connection with any type of relationship. You can be fun and carefree in a song while still thinking about your image. In fact, she's never released a single that didn't talk about a relationship (aside from "Eyes Open"). If anything, the context of the song will IMPROVE her image! The sound, though, isn't a step forward since it sounds like it comes straight from Let Go, but whatever. I'm sorry, but I couldn't disagree with you more here. "22" is going to HURT her from an artistic standpoint, much as "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" arguably already has done. Much like that predecessor, "22" attempts to be ironic and cheeky, but falls flat on its face and just carries across like more posturing without any artistic merit. Like it or not, "22" is going to directly feed this growing perception of Swift dumbing down to industry pressures and succumbing to the excesses of fame and promiscuity. Many listeners don't possess Swift's command of the written word and her sly eye for wit and composition, and thus won't ever even see the irony, just as they hadn't seen it in "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" (not that either articulated it competently in the first place). The point is, she has a choice. She can either aim for instant gratification but risk further burnout and alienating fans in the longer term, or she can settle for more modest (though still convincing) hits and work toward restoring her reputation as a truly talented artist by showcasing her stronger pop;-sensible songs as singles. She apparently is settling on the former, for whatever reason. Namaste, Noah Hibiscus Eaton
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Post by slayZ on Feb 5, 2013 18:14:55 GMT -5
I think what's so great about this is that the whole "the only thing Taylor does is date and dump guys to write songs about them" topic is at its peak right now and releasing a (smash) song that's NOT about Boys to Pop radio, which is the biggest format there is, will shine light onto a different subject, which is about her...being young, careless, free and having fun, something she hasn't sung about before. People are getting tired of her singing about boys and this will give them a break. Aside from being an amazing single choice, the lyrics, while juvenile, serve its purpose and they were perfectly crafted to make an impact. People need to stop taking Taylor's music so seriously, SHE doesn't even take herself that seriously. The "hipster" line as well as other funny references in the song are just proof of her young sense of humor, something that most people aren't aware of and this might be an introduction. I'm hoping the video is as fun and colorful as the song. You seriously expect me to believe you when you argue that she does NOT take herself seriously? If anything, I consider Swift one of the most self-serious artists on both Mainstream Top 40 and Country airwaves. Have you been following the headlines closely? She is under great distress, and much of the source of that distress stems NOT from her latest break-up with Styles, but with the way her image has soured publicly, especially Tina Fey's cracks at her. From an instant gratification standpoint, sure. "22" is the best follow-up without doubt. But "22" will prove to do more harm than good in the longer term for her in that it will only sinew the immature, promiscuous, serial dater image that has overshadowed much of her artistry this time around. Namaste, Noah Hibiscus Eaton I'm sorry, I don't get my daily news intake from National Enquirer. Taylor being in "great distress" after a harmless joke at an awards show seems more ridiculous than anything else. Taylor doesn't take herself so seriously. The media does, and therefore the public. Those who follow her and know what her personality is like know that she's really a regular 23 year old woman who likes to crack jokes at inappropriate moments, has a sick sense of humor and actually has fun. Having fun has nothing to do with dating. The song makes no reference to a boy or a relationship except when she says "make fun of our ex's." It's a light, tongue and cheek, carefree, sing-along anthem. It's NOT a serious jam, and it's NOT meant to be serious, or to be taken seriously. I also don't appreciate the terms you're using to describe her. "Promiscuous?" It's a little offensive that people are shamelessly judging a 23 year old girl who is finding herself. Lord knows that if I had cameras watching my every move, I'd be called "promiscuous" too. She's "dated" a grand total of 3 men within the past two years. And by "dated," I mean going out to dinner, karaoke sessions and walks in the park with them for 2 and a half months the longest. The fact that you, or anyone else, would label that "promiscuous" is rather stupid, especially when she's by far one of the most elegant and classy acts in the industry at the moment. Pointing fingers at someone for going on a date with someone when it's something not just everyone else in Hollywood does, but any other normal 23 year old is known for, is unfair. Sorry that you seem to think she has to release a ballad with more depth to improve her personal image but in fact, it couldn't be further from the truth.
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Post by jack on Feb 5, 2013 18:19:19 GMT -5
April .. uhm.
But i think this is a good choice, I wanted Red but this was my second option.
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Post by singingsparrow on Feb 5, 2013 18:20:06 GMT -5
How can a future massive #1 single harm her image? And if it's not released to country radio then there's no way the country audience will even know of its existance. Look up "Bump Bump Bump", "We Built This City" or "Afternoon Delight", just to name several, and you should see what I mean! ;) Lady Gaga may actually be a fitting comparison in the meantime also, to the extent that a new statistical study has revealed that, beginning in May 2011, her popularity has steadily declined month by month, with the exception of two very miniscule bumps like her appearance at the MTV Video Music Awards in later 2011. All despite the steady stream of stories about her ranging from her equal rights activism to her admission of struggling with an eating disorder. And why is that? Because oversaturation has resulted in her alienating many of her fans. Swift is now lost in a storm of oversaturation, and you can bet your bottom dollar she will suffer the same decline if she doesn't start steering this ship in the right direction, and fast. Namaste, Noah Hibiscus Eaton
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Post by Keelzit on Feb 5, 2013 18:24:25 GMT -5
But why hasn't that happened to Rihanna? She's the definition of someone who should be burnt out by now as a result of her constantly be played on radio and her infamous relationship with CB which is far more 'scandalous' than any relationship Swift had or any dress GaGa wore. It all comes down to the music. It's no coincidence that as soon as GaGa flopped with Judas her popularity started to decrease. Swift will be fine.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2013 18:25:46 GMT -5
Nice!!! My bf heard this once and said it'll be a single. Good call, baby.
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Post by slayZ on Feb 5, 2013 18:29:42 GMT -5
How can a future massive #1 single harm her image? And if it's not released to country radio then there's no way the country audience will even know of its existance. Look up "Bump Bump Bump", "We Built This City" or "Afternoon Delight", just to name several, and you should see what I mean! ;) Lady Gaga may actually be a fitting comparison in the meantime also, to the extent that a new statistical study has revealed that, beginning in May 2011, her popularity has steadily declined month by month, with the exception of two very miniscule bumps like her appearance at the MTV Video Music Awards in later 2011. All despite the steady stream of stories about her ranging from her equal rights activism to her admission of struggling with an eating disorder. And why is that? Because oversaturation has resulted in her alienating many of her fans. Swift is now lost in a storm of oversaturation, and you can bet your bottom dollar she will suffer the same decline if she doesn't start steering this ship in the right direction, and fast. Namaste, Noah Hibiscus Eaton The difference is that, Lady Gaga's success has been declining since the minute she popped on the scene with lower album sales for each of her following records, and underperforming singles. Taylor on the other hand, just scored one of the biggest selling weeks in the history of Billboard and the biggest of her entire career, she just broke the record for having a song with the most spins on radio history, has had two #1 singles in a row, both which went #1 in major international countries, and is having a sold out tour which includes twice the number of stadiums her last one had. There's no comparison. Taylor is on top of the world and is one of, if not THE most successful artist in the industry right now. Taylor is going up with each album, topping herself each time. Gaga kept declining.
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Post by singingsparrow on Feb 5, 2013 18:30:34 GMT -5
You seriously expect me to believe you when you argue that she does NOT take herself seriously? If anything, I consider Swift one of the most self-serious artists on both Mainstream Top 40 and Country airwaves. Have you been following the headlines closely? She is under great distress, and much of the source of that distress stems NOT from her latest break-up with Styles, but with the way her image has soured publicly, especially Tina Fey's cracks at her. From an instant gratification standpoint, sure. "22" is the best follow-up without doubt. But "22" will prove to do more harm than good in the longer term for her in that it will only sinew the immature, promiscuous, serial dater image that has overshadowed much of her artistry this time around. Namaste, Noah Hibiscus Eaton I'm sorry, I don't get my daily news intake from National Enquirer. Taylor being in "great distress" after a harmless joke at an awards show seems more ridiculous than anything else. Taylor doesn't take herself so seriously. The media does, and therefore the public. Those who follow her and know what her personality is like know that she's really a regular 23 year old woman who likes to crack jokes at inappropriate moments, has a sick sense of humor and actually has fun. Having fun has nothing to do with dating. The song makes no reference to a boy or a relationship except when she says "make fun of our ex's." It's a light, tongue and cheek, carefree, sing-along anthem. It's NOT a serious jam, and it's NOT meant to be serious, or to be taken seriously. I also don't appreciate the terms you're using to describe her. "Promiscuous?" It's a little offensive that people are shamelessly judging a 23 year old girl who is finding herself. Lord knows that if I had cameras watching my every move, I'd be called "promiscuous" too. She's "dated" a grand total of 3 men within the past two years. And by "dated," I mean going out to dinner, karaoke sessions and walks in the park with them for 2 and a half months the longest. The fact that you, or anyone else, would label that "promiscuous" is rather stupid, especially when she's by far one of the most elegant and classy acts in the industry at the moment. Pointing fingers at someone for going on a date with someone when it's something not just everyone else in Hollywood does, but any other normal 23 year old is known for, is unfair. Sorry that you seem to think she has to release a ballad with more depth to improve her personal image but in fact, it couldn't be further from the truth. On a personal level, I couldn't care less who Swift dates or has sex with. I even go so far as to consider 'promiscuous" a decidedly positive term, in that when you study the etymology of the word, it means "to blend" or "to mix", and it doesn't have to imply sex necessarily. That's just my take on the term, as I know many maintain a lack of comfort toward that term. Anyway, none of that is my business, and shouldn't be anyone else's business save her and her suitors. That said, that's the nature of celebrity. You either adequately define yourself, or others will define you if you let your guard down. Someone as instinctive as Swift should understand that better than most. And right now, she has let her guard down, I believe. Regardless of your personal take on Swift's "sick sense of humor" and how often she has fun, many view her as a very pensive, self-serious person. That's just the reality. I would never have even known she had a visible sense of humor whatsoever if I wasn't following the headlines more closely. And even doing so, I consider her one of the most self-serious artists in the business. Namaste, Noah Hibiscus Eaton
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 5, 2013 18:34:23 GMT -5
How can a future massive #1 single harm her image? And if it's not released to country radio then there's no way the country audience will even know of its existance. If only it worked like that. Lady Gaga may actually be a fitting comparison in the meantime also, to the extent that a new statistical study has revealed that, beginning in May 2011, her popularity has steadily declined month by month, with the exception of two very miniscule bumps like her appearance at the MTV Video Music Awards in later 2011. All despite the steady stream of stories about her ranging from her equal rights activism to her admission of struggling with an eating disorder. I have several problems with that study, specifically some of the things they mention that they attribute to her decrease in popularity. Eating disorders and activism don't result in much attention or press other than a day or two on page 4 of the entertainment section.
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Post by singingsparrow on Feb 5, 2013 18:41:11 GMT -5
Look up "Bump Bump Bump", "We Built This City" or "Afternoon Delight", just to name several, and you should see what I mean! ;) Lady Gaga may actually be a fitting comparison in the meantime also, to the extent that a new statistical study has revealed that, beginning in May 2011, her popularity has steadily declined month by month, with the exception of two very miniscule bumps like her appearance at the MTV Video Music Awards in later 2011. All despite the steady stream of stories about her ranging from her equal rights activism to her admission of struggling with an eating disorder. And why is that? Because oversaturation has resulted in her alienating many of her fans. Swift is now lost in a storm of oversaturation, and you can bet your bottom dollar she will suffer the same decline if she doesn't start steering this ship in the right direction, and fast. Namaste, Noah Hibiscus Eaton The difference is that, Lady Gaga's success has been declining since the minute she popped on the scene with lower album sales for each of her following records, and underperforming singles. Taylor on the other hand, just scored one of the biggest selling weeks in the history of Billboard and the biggest of her entire career, she just broke the record for having a song with the most spins on radio history, has had two #1 singles in a row, both which went #1 in major international countries, and is having a sold out tour which includes twice the number of stadiums her last one had. There's no comparison. Taylor is on top of the world and is one of, if not THE most successful artist in the industry right now. Taylor is going up with each album, topping herself each time. Gaga kept declining. Her most recent album ("Born This Way") bowed with her strongest first-week sales to date! ;) (Yeah, I know it leveled off rather rapidly after that and had relatively weak legs, but just had to point that part out since you were attempting to paint a stark contrast between the two artists in terms of debuts! ;) )* The point is, with all that unmistakable success, there often proves to be a cost. A cost that isn't immediately apparent and forecasted, but inevitably rears its head. A hubris of sorts, I suppose you can say, in some cases where excesses of fame is concerned. It'll be a shame if Swift goes under because she is truly a strong songwriter and someone this generation really needs. Her image as a role model (namely being an unremarkable, average-looking young woman who nonetheless has caught the imagination of millions of young women especially and being a voice of authenticity that's rather rare among popular music these days) has already eroded significantly. There's still time to keep her from sacrificing all that in the artistic sense, or at least that which is defining her later career. But if she continues to let Borchetta intervene with her artistic outpouring, and cedes increasing ground to the likes of blatantly commercial, all business-minded studio hacks like Shellback, you can bet your bottom dollar she will experience a hubris of her own. Namaste, Noah Hibiscus Eaton
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Post by Positive Tension on Feb 5, 2013 19:49:58 GMT -5
This is a perfect single for Taylor. Hopefully it'll be her third big hit this era.
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