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Post by JCMF3 on Aug 23, 2013 8:05:23 GMT -5
I am surprised this song didn't get off to a huge start, but I won't be overly surprised if it doesn't perform near the level of the last three singles. I heard it a couple of times and it just is not as catchy or as interesting (for me) as P!nk's other singles.
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Post by JCMF3 on Aug 23, 2013 8:03:13 GMT -5
I think the whole "relating to songs" aspect is overrated on here. Sure, some songs really work because of the relating to it factor but it's not going to work for every single song. When a song is a hit, being relatable isn't the only reason why, just like when a song isn't a hit, it's not because people were unable to relate to it. Was Gangnam Style a hit because we related to it? Harlem Shake? Probably not. So Poker Face being a hit, probably for reasons other than relatability. This song, probably the same thing. Of course it depends on how people interpret it as well but I'm certainly not going to chalk a Gaga song up to whether or not I can relate to it. That's Adele's forte. Or Tegan and Sara (for me). Or others. I agree mostly with this. A song's appeal and chart performance is a function of many things, and some songs will tilt very much towards 1-2 metrics. For example, there are songs whose performance is tied to the popularity of a movie (My Heart Will Go On is a key example) while others are driven my the message (of late, Same Love fits this category). Novelty is also a huge factor (Gangnum Style, Macarena, etc). Things get messy with the radio industry, however, since we all know that stations are paid to play certain songs a certain amount of times for a certain period, particularly when premiering a song. So, sometimes there is a 'force factor' on the listening audience that drives 'popularity'. A very interesting phenomenon to be sure.
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Post by JCMF3 on Aug 14, 2013 20:16:17 GMT -5
Yeah, this is relatively recent but interesting. When songs had high entries or large jumps initially, they almost always went Top 5 and if they didn't, Top 10 was a minimum. The only exception I can think of offhand before 2009 or so was the then-crazy-odd Prince single Betcha By Golly Wow from 1997 that went something like 23-17-16-17-24-off or something. There are examples of this not happening. These are a few but there are plenty more. Michael Jackson - You Rock My World - The song went 47-28-20-15 then dropped and was off the chart 4 weeks later. Michael Jackson w/ Janet Jackson - Scream - 29-21-19 and then it fell. Janet Jackson - Just a Little While - 30-23-20-19 and then fell. Faith Hill - There You'll Be - Though it debuted at #41, the song vaulted to #29 and was added to every pop station on the panel. However, the song only peaked at #22 2 weeks later. Britney Spears - Gimme More - 28-21-19-18-18-17 and then dropped. Britney Spears - My Prerogative - 47-30-25-22-22 and then dropped. Britney Spears - From The Bottom of My Broken Heart - 50-31-22-20-16 then dropped. Baz Luhrmann - Everybody's Free To Wear Sunscreen - 36-28-24-18 then dropped.
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Post by JCMF3 on Aug 14, 2013 8:32:30 GMT -5
It looks like 'You Da One' is also an exception to your hypothesis.
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Post by JCMF3 on Aug 14, 2013 8:01:46 GMT -5
The updates are all over the place... very interesting to see this. I wonder why that is the case.
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Post by JCMF3 on Aug 14, 2013 7:57:56 GMT -5
Very disappointed in this release from Lady Gaga.
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Post by JCMF3 on Aug 9, 2013 9:52:54 GMT -5
I think you're referring to the Pop charts, right? What were the top 5 pop songs in 2005 btw? 1. Kelly Clarkson - Since U Been Gone 2. Kelly Clarkson - Behind These Hazel Eyes 3. Mariah Carey - We Belong Together 4. Ciara f/Missy Elliott - 1, 2 Step 5. Green Day - Boulevard Of Broken Dreams Great year for pop music IMO, especially considering the dismal 2001-early 2004 period. In terms of Mediabase, this song will most definitely be top 10 for the year for Pop, but #1 is not a lock, particularly if the followup gets strong airplay. I think one of Macklemore/Ryan Lewis's first two singles might grab the top spot.
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Post by JCMF3 on Aug 8, 2013 9:27:23 GMT -5
Hopefully it still has enough to make it to #1 on Pop! That is very doubtful.
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Post by JCMF3 on Aug 6, 2013 21:23:00 GMT -5
Very catchy song, and I could see this doing well. However, the video is really odd and I don't really get it.
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Post by JCMF3 on Aug 6, 2013 13:34:30 GMT -5
Started From The Bottom was not the first single? It peaked at #6 on Billboard Hot 100.
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Post by JCMF3 on Aug 6, 2013 11:27:58 GMT -5
So of course the natural question - when was the last time a song was #1 on pop, urban, urban AC, Hot AC, and RHY at the same time? I don't think there is one! Heck, taking out Urban AC, I don't think I know of a song that was #1 on the other 4 formats at the same time.
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Post by JCMF3 on Aug 5, 2013 11:22:35 GMT -5
For what it's worth, what's the last spoken-word (or mostly spoken-word) single to hit the Top 10? Am in the minority in considering this song a rap song (which, by definition, is spoken word with a beat)? I guess I don't understand the question really.
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Post by JCMF3 on Jul 31, 2013 9:28:22 GMT -5
Backstreet boys - The One (couldve been bigger with a legit video WITH synchronized choreography IMO) The One did have a video (and it was 'legit' - i.e., official). Now, whether the video was great or not is something for another thread. I think you picked a poor example to represent mid-late 90s videos. I think the late 90s had some memorable videos like Baby, One More Time (changed a whole generation of young men and their affinity for school girl outfits, including myself :) ), Mo Money, Mo Problems (the space-like suits on Ma$e and Puff Daddy), and TLC's Waterfalls (OK, technically mid-90s, but quite the story portrayed in that song/video). I also thought the MB20 videos were well done, and I enjoyed other more alternative rock-oriented videos (DMB, Foo Fighters). I wasn't a Korn fan, but their video for Freak on a Leash was certainly very unique and an interesting switch between anime and 'real life' and the whole speeding bullet concept. I don't think anyone has come close to having a video like that. On the female singer/songwriter side, I thought that Paula Cole's videos were always imaginative, as were Natalie Merchant's and even Sarah McLachlan. I guess you could consider them 'boring' - I considered them appropriate for their respective songs. Now, if your sole source of videos then was TRL - OK, I could see why you might think the videos were not that great or original. And, if I have to compare the 90s videos to iconic videos like Thriller, then sure, they are on a different level. But I think overall there were some great music videos out in the 1990s that people should consider.
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Post by JCMF3 on Jul 29, 2013 10:13:27 GMT -5
Top 20 on AC?!?!
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Post by JCMF3 on Jul 29, 2013 10:12:44 GMT -5
Oh dear.
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Post by JCMF3 on Jul 29, 2013 5:57:15 GMT -5
Oh, she sings songs other than Frosty The Snowman?
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Post by JCMF3 on Jul 12, 2013 10:56:58 GMT -5
I'm happy for his success and all but I much prefer the old Robin Thicke...the one who made great music but carry on make that paper if you must. THIS x 100.
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Post by JCMF3 on Jul 11, 2013 9:12:20 GMT -5
Justin Timberlake - Mirrors (Only the singular is used in the lyrics)
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Post by JCMF3 on Jul 11, 2013 9:07:07 GMT -5
i'm curious to why Bruno songs don't go for adds on Urban or Urban AC?..a song like Treasure you would think would be a hit on those formats I don't think Treasure fits into the Urban format. Urban AC - maybe, but even there that is more of a stretch.
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Post by JCMF3 on Jul 3, 2013 9:18:39 GMT -5
Still a jam. I've always preferred this over "Hey Ya".
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Post by JCMF3 on Jul 3, 2013 9:15:31 GMT -5
... and now adds date of July 23.
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Post by JCMF3 on Jul 3, 2013 9:12:30 GMT -5
Pack it up. This artist is done on Pop and possibly radio altogether - at least, for a long while. How can you say that when her last single reached #20? If she was truly done, it wouldn't have even scraped the top 40. I mean, "Here's to Never Growing Up" could have performed like "Live It Up" or "Run the World (Girls)," but it did much better than those. I don't think a returning formerly successful pop artist hitting #20 with a fast-rising, fast falling hit (it's almost out of the top 40 now) is terribly indicative of her maintaining pop radio presence. In fact, as a listener of pop radio, I heard the song maybe twice on the radio. Yes, that is anecdotal, but it is symptomatic of a fast-rise, fast-fall song that few listeners will even remember in 2 months. I personally do not think her followups will do well on pop radio UNLESS there is some remix or she collaborates with some other artist on a song.
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Post by JCMF3 on Jul 2, 2013 8:52:50 GMT -5
Heard the song in its entirety finally. Boring. Dull. Annoying.
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Post by JCMF3 on Jul 2, 2013 8:50:56 GMT -5
Pack it up. This artist is done on Pop and possibly radio altogether - at least, for a long while.
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Post by JCMF3 on Jul 2, 2013 8:48:30 GMT -5
Let's not forget these. :) AC58 47 ROBIN THICKE Blurred Lines f/Pharrell & T.I 32 10 22 0.165 +4 Spins +2 Bullet +0.024 Audience TRIPLE A64 48 ROBIN THICKE Blurred Lines f/Pharrell & T.I 65 49 16 0.557 = Spins -10 Bullet = Audience No business on these stations. NONE.
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Post by JCMF3 on Jul 1, 2013 13:13:54 GMT -5
I think it did well for the type of song it is. I don't understand this comment. Personally, part of the reason this song did as well as it did was because Ariana was promoted by multiple CBS radio station for concerts (103.3 AMP, 97.7 are two of the stations that had her in high rotation AND for which she did concerts).
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Post by JCMF3 on Jul 1, 2013 13:08:42 GMT -5
^ Wasn't 'Can't Hold Us' first released in 2011?
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Post by JCMF3 on Jun 20, 2013 9:10:07 GMT -5
They should really discount the single this week or very soon. It has potential to sneak into the Top 10. What is streaming like? Stunts like this devalue the BB100 and the use of that chart as a measure of success.
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Post by JCMF3 on Jun 13, 2013 12:34:45 GMT -5
Who?
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Post by JCMF3 on Jun 13, 2013 4:51:17 GMT -5
Well that was exciting, wasn't it?
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