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Post by Arson on Jul 27, 2005 22:04:24 GMT -5
AC will probably skip right to the fourth single.
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Post by Arson on Jul 12, 2005 21:40:50 GMT -5
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Post by Arson on Aug 16, 2005 13:18:26 GMT -5
Why does WLTW succeed with this format? They are trying to grab listeners from elsewhere on the dial. Some formats like country and oldies are off the dial in New York - so they'll play Faith Hill and "Respect." New York has two dance stations appealing to comparable demographics - so, they'll play loads of Donna Summer and Barry White. What about Hot A/C or Top 40? OK, they'll play Rob Thomas and Kelly Clarkson. With all the time they spend trying to lure listeners from other stations, they are developing a sound that is defensive and derivative instead of acknowledging and evolving the A/C format born 40+ years ago. That's a good description of the approach AC stations are taking. New adds to the playlist are decided on based on what OTHER stations in the market play. For people who listen to multiple stations and turn to AC for actual AC music, it is particularly disappointing, since you basically just hear the same old songs repeated wherever you go.
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Post by Arson on Jul 26, 2005 19:52:37 GMT -5
Even the new generation of A/C acts are caught in the glacial cycle of today's A/C radio. Take Josh Groban - "You Raise Me Up" spent six weeks at #1 in Billboard. Yet, why did the follow-up, "Remember When It Rained," stall at #15? Simple - radio did not stop playing "Raise." Same with Shania - "It Only Hurts When I'm Breathing" could not gain airplay against her own "Forever And For Always." Even "Party For Two" from her next album probably struggled because "Forever" was still being played. You cannot develop a core artist if you only allow him/her/them one hit every year or two. You make a good point. You would think the soccer moms would actually like to hear new music from a favorite artist, say, Celine Dion (whose last 2 songs flopped) even if it's an unfamiliar song. It IS someone they like, isn't it? They would seriously rather hear "Heaven" or "Breakaway" or "My Heart Will Go On" one more time? It makes for such a boring listen. Then, there's the practice of dropping recent AC songs once they have reached their overplay max, and then NEVER re-adding them. I can't remember the last time I heard Don Henley's "Taking You Home" even though it was a very big hit a few years ago.
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Post by Arson on Jul 12, 2005 21:49:12 GMT -5
People who are in the target AC audience in 2025 will have grown up on Usher, Eminem, Britney Spears, 50 Cent, etc. -- none of whom are AC friendly. Most of the music that performed well on AC during these years will have been completely forgotten by the target audience, so what will be left to play? On this week's AC chart, the following are all pop crossovers, so they will likely be played: Rob Thomas Lonely No More Kelly Clarkson Breakaway Los Lonely Boys Heaven Backstreet Boys Incomplete Maroon 5 She Will Be Loved Maroon 5 Sunday Morning Howie Day Collide Mariah Carey We Belong Together As with now, AC will likely continue to be receptive to songs by artists whose time has come and gone. By then, some of the singers on the pop chart today may have mellowed a bit. There are AC listeners now who listened to harder rock in the 1970s and 1980s. They are evidently choosing AC over Jack-type stations. Overall, though, it looks like the future AC will be Hot AC-ish.
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Post by Arson on Feb 14, 2006 5:05:01 GMT -5
I have really tried to get into this song, but I just can't. I don't know why, but something about it is not that appealing to me. I've only heard it a few times, but so far, I'm finding it kind of dull. I'll try harder and listen to it a few more times, I guess.
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Post by Arson on Jun 30, 2005 23:07:54 GMT -5
Yeah, there were major arguments about this when they decided to split AC and Hot AC. I think some Hot AC fans didn't want to sift through AC topics or something to that effect. Overall, though, I think the formats are different enough to warrant two separate forums.
Hot AC is a pretty bad name, I agree. I'm not sure if "Adult Top 40" is appropriate either since Top 40 implies focus on current music, and Hot AC gives golds and recurrents a lot of airplay. I would like to listen to a Hot AC station that plays all the songs on the Hot AC and Triple A charts in lieu of some of the older stuff. If the name is solely based on the type of music, I think the "Pop/Rock" or the "Light Rock" Chart would be better since on Hot AC, you mainly hear lighter rock-bordering-on-pop artists.
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Post by Arson on Jun 22, 2005 15:02:59 GMT -5
Jack is pretty much a hybrid of hot AC and classic rock, so I don't think it will have much impact on AC. I do, however, think in markets where there is a variety hits station, some mainstream ACs may add songs not typical of the AC format so as not to seem "boring" compared to variety hits stations. That's what has happened in my city. The mainstream AC station has added more 70s and 80s rock songs not played before. Although Jack is closer to Hot AC and Classic Rock than AC, if it pulls listeners from AC, they will respond in kind (more with the addition of golds, rather than the addition of currents, so this should not affect the AC chart).
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Post by Arson on Jul 27, 2005 22:01:08 GMT -5
I'm surprised this is doing as well as it is on AC considering they could have just as easily ignored it and played the original instead. AC seems to like playing remakes, since there's built-in familiarity. "Drift Away", "The First Cut Is The Deepest" and "Ain't No Mountain High Enough" are still among the top 5 recurrents. Then, there's also "Give A Little Bit" and "I'll Be Around" currently doing well.
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Post by Arson on Aug 26, 2005 12:39:51 GMT -5
I hope this song will keep moving up.
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Post by Arson on Apr 11, 2005 14:38:44 GMT -5
Possibly, but I read somewhere recently (R&R perhaps) about the threat of satellite radio and how AC radio will be forced to expand their library from 300 songs to 1,000 in order to appeal to more people. Speaking of AC libraries, does anyone have a list of the 100-300 gold songs that almost all AC stations have as part of their playlists? I know on Mediabase, it is possible to access Golds of AC and Hot AC combined, but I have always wanted a complete list of the most popular AC golds. I know my local AC station is adding more new golds (mostly harder Hot AC golds) to compete with the local Hot AC station.
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Post by Arson on Apr 10, 2005 19:24:19 GMT -5
I listened to the show for the first time in awhile, and my local station played last week's show.
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Post by Arson on Apr 17, 2006 2:36:10 GMT -5
It's unfortunate that AC stations spend all their spins on the top 5's and the recurrents. Changing the recurrent rule won't make any difference on the acceptance of new music... stations are going to play "Heaven" and "Breakaway" to death whether or not they are currents or recurrents.
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Post by Arson on Apr 30, 2005 16:00:25 GMT -5
Oh great. As if I haven't overloaded on this song already from pop and Hot AC. Well, at least a watered-down version would be something slightly different to listen to.
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Post by Arson on Jul 3, 2005 19:27:42 GMT -5
#1 on CHR/Pop should buoy this song to the top 10 eventually.
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Post by Arson on Apr 17, 2005 18:52:38 GMT -5
I don't see this getting past #20, considering "Through The Rain" and "Never Too Far" were a lot more AC friendly and both of those only got to #15. I was disappointed AC didn't pick up on those songs. I agree "We Belong Together" isn't as AC-friendly as those other songs. If it does well at pop, I think AC will give it a chance. I was listening to WBT the other day, and somewhere in the middle of the song, she sounded like Celine Dion. Weird moment there.
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Post by Arson on Mar 11, 2005 18:24:07 GMT -5
If "Goin' Crazy" gets high on pop, I wouldn't be surprised.
I don't think so for "Obsession". "Don't Wanna Try" was a better fit.
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Post by Arson on Mar 5, 2005 19:34:59 GMT -5
Because AC adds pop-crossovers so late, "Breakaway" can still be considered a current since it's relatively new to AC. "Live Like You Were Dying" is a very recurrent song on Country, but it's considered a current on pop since it's still rising.
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Post by Arson on May 10, 2005 22:00:44 GMT -5
You're going to put Rob Thomas in the same category as Phil Collins, Lionel Richie, Celine Dion, and more recently Faith Hill and Shania Twain? Having one solo effort chart on the AC chart and a couple of other hits does not make Rob Thomas a "staple" for this format. But, if you want to use that definition, then I guess John Mayer and Maroon 5 are AC staples. I explained what I meant in a subsequent post. I concur I should not have used the word 'staple'. Maroon Five would be going even further out there as their success has all been with one album.
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Post by Arson on May 9, 2005 14:01:06 GMT -5
I guess you just can't call an artist a "staple" until after they've made more than several strong chart showings. matchbox twenty currently have two AC hits, and this will make it four for tracks involving Rob Thomas. You're right about the typical definition of "staple". I guess I just mean Rob Thomas has been able to do very well on songs that normally wouldn't make the AC chart, and he has done it again and again - with his Matchbox Twenty material before pop-rock became more prevalent on AC, "Smooth" with Santana, and now "Lonely No More". I think AC programmers do give more serious consideration when he releases a song, over other artists that may release similar material (which would probably be deemed inappropriate right off the bat).
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Post by Arson on May 8, 2005 22:11:08 GMT -5
Rob Thomas is pretty much an AC staple. This song could reach very high.
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Post by Arson on Feb 23, 2005 0:42:01 GMT -5
Rob Thomas has had enough success on AC to have a very good chance with this song even though it may not be the most appropriate.
It may not be an automatic add, but once/if it shoots up to the upper echelon of the pop and Hot AC charts, it will surely begin climbing on AC, slowly but steadily (probably all the way to top 5).
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Post by Arson on Mar 5, 2005 0:30:19 GMT -5
It's more reminiscent of lounge singing than the country twang. Michael Buble has the sound of a traditional pop vocalist.
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Post by Arson on Feb 27, 2005 18:02:04 GMT -5
Another one for MercyMe with a song about death. This song will pull at listeners' heartstrings, so should do well despite its Christian slant. It is a strong ballad.
I would expect Delilah to have no qualms about playing this one considering the nature of her show.
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Post by Arson on Jan 23, 2005 22:57:23 GMT -5
LDD repeats I can understand, since there are certain songs pertaining to various themes that everyone likes to request.
There have been so many songs on the AC chart in the past 30 years that repeating of extras within a short period is less forgivable. I understand, though, that the show can't play too many obscure songs.
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Post by Arson on Jan 16, 2005 20:15:15 GMT -5
Hopefully, someone will post the songs played in this weekend's countdown. I only heard a bit of it (the top of the last hour).
From the Top 10
3. Martina McBride - "In My Daughter's Eyes" 4. Five For Fighting - "100 Years" (biggest jumper this week) 5. Maroon 5 - "This Love"
From the AT10 Archives
Cher - "Song For The Lonely" Fleetwood Mac - "Rhiannon"
AT10 Spotlight
Theme: 'The Piano and the Artists Who Play Them"
Richard Marx - "Right Here Waiting" Elton John - "Tiny Dancer" Barry Manilow - "Weekend in New England"
I wonder if he played Sarah McLachlan's "Angel". And maybe a song by Jim Brickman.
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Post by Arson on Jan 7, 2005 1:38:36 GMT -5
Thanks for posting the chart.
Wow, "Breakaway" and "The Reason" placed quite a bit higher than usual too. I guess the Hot AC-leaning AC's are the ones that tend to not go All-Christmas.
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Post by Arson on Jan 6, 2005 17:15:23 GMT -5
Well, it looks like nobody knows anyway, since we haven't seen a reply. I did listen to the beginning of the show, but I don't remember him recapping last week's top three. I guess he must have, though, but I was so overwhelmed by disappointment they weren't airing the yearend countdown that I tuned out for a sec.
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Post by Arson on Jan 5, 2005 3:34:53 GMT -5
I'd guess it was actually a writer's error. It's possible that "This Love" was at #3 on the previous chart, and they got their Maroon5 songs confused while writing the intro for the newer title at #10. I think this is the most logical explanation. "She Will Be Loved" is still quite new at AC, so it couldn't have been that high.
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Post by Arson on Jan 3, 2005 2:41:16 GMT -5
When Casey introduced "She Will Be Loved" at #10, he said it dropped 7 notches from #3. :o
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